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Noyjitat
03-16-2005, 01:30 AM
Anyone else feel that it is overpowered? It takes like 6 shots to kill a mag, and 3.2 for a lightning. Its ridiculous, Everytime im out in the field with my mag or gunning for another mag, u have to retreat after the 3rd shot. Ands its so accurate as hell. THey need to either 1, lower the damage on the particle cannon, or 2 change its refire rate down 3 more seconds or so. Nc particle cannon wasnt a problem till they nerfed the regualr peregrine and gave everyone the GV's. I have not 1 time asked for a single bfr nerf, but this is ridiculous!!! I might start a nerf thread on the soe forums, but im leaning away from that, cuz i dont like to be a whiner. :x

Wolvpak99
03-16-2005, 03:23 AM
6 for a mag? dead on it take 3.5...Only weapon in the game that is WAY to overpowered

RagOnAStick
03-16-2005, 04:05 AM
Not to mention it's lovely ability afterwards.
Yes it is overpowered.

WasntMe
03-16-2005, 09:26 AM
Just throw more than one mag (3 or 4) and they fall pretty quick.

StarRaven118
03-16-2005, 10:11 AM
its NOT overpowered

WasntMe
03-16-2005, 10:12 AM
its NOT overpowered

But you are....

kazzmann5000
03-16-2005, 03:35 PM
its NOT overpowered

I'm sorta confused as to why you still use these forums star... lol

KelesK
03-16-2005, 04:26 PM
I gotta say, having been on both ends of that gun, I think the accuracy needs to be downed a bit and so does the damage., maybe take off a quater of both

Orionmac
03-16-2005, 04:31 PM
I don't want to sound whiney either, but I was considering the same
thing. It's gotten to the point that I can recongnize those things
at maximum range and immediately run away, or for cover. They
neutralize the water travel ability of mags.
It's fine and dandy to say 3-4 mags can take one down, but there
still is likely to be at least one casualty, and if there are two or more
there is little you can do unless you have half a platoon or more in
a co-ordinated mag column.
I know, this does sound whiney. But I *do* try any and all tactics
that occur to me, and so far nothing works.
Just ask Tacjack, one of the best Mag strategists going, he's stumped
too.
Same thing goes for going toe-to-toe AV GV BFR, VS vs NC.
Everything in PS is 99% balanced, that BFR is 80% balance, and that
is not good

Noyjitat
03-16-2005, 04:37 PM
its NOT overpowered

passth' that pipeth' that u smoketh',

StarRaven118
03-16-2005, 05:06 PM
:o

Noyjitat
03-16-2005, 07:48 PM
:o

in other words, im saying that your crazy.

Blackace
03-16-2005, 08:37 PM
NC Particle cannon needs a nerf, no ifs, ands, or buts about it.

StarRaven118
03-16-2005, 09:14 PM
Its fine. No nerf needed....and No nerf will be applied 8)

WasntMe
03-16-2005, 09:24 PM
Its fine. No nerf needed....and No nerf will be applied 8)

Yes ma'am.

Noyjitat
03-16-2005, 09:28 PM
Yeah i actually think it will be nerfed soon, they are focusing on more bfr nerfs till early may.

StarRaven118
03-16-2005, 10:15 PM
8)

Xenode
03-17-2005, 02:31 AM
since I am a mag driver I know that it needs to be nerfed a bit. I am unsure how the aphelions AV is against others, but the TR dont have power like that. In fact playing on hossin, if you are unlucky enough to come over a hill and come face to face with them your pretty much screwed unless they somehow dont notice you. I agree it needs a few extra seconds on the refire. I wont mind the current refire rate if it is nerfed and I would take a few seconds on the refire rate over nerfing the power. They almost have these things actually semi balanced. Now if only the FV's could not sit on trees, catwalks, and other places where I cant place a mag. If FV's can sit on towers I should be able to drop a skyguard on top of an air tower.

Noyjitat
03-17-2005, 07:46 AM
since I am a mag driver I know that it needs to be nerfed a bit. I am unsure how the aphelions AV is against others, but the TR dont have power like that. In fact playing on hossin, if you are unlucky enough to come over a hill and come face to face with them your pretty much screwed unless they somehow dont notice you. I agree it needs a few extra seconds on the refire. I wont mind the current refire rate if it is nerfed and I would take a few seconds on the refire rate over nerfing the power. They almost have these things actually semi balanced. Now if only the FV's could not sit on trees, catwalks, and other places where I cant place a mag. If FV's can sit on towers I should be able to drop a skyguard on top of an air tower.

Yeah its ridiculous. This wasnt a problem till they nerfed the current non flight variants and gave everyone the gv's. And the pogoing needs to be stopped too.

Rei
03-17-2005, 07:55 AM
Its fine. No nerf needed....and No nerf will be applied

So speaketh the Empress... bow down and let her will be done! :)

Stan-The-Man
03-17-2005, 01:09 PM
Its fine. No nerf needed....and No nerf will be applied

So speaketh the NC Empress... bow down and let her will be done! :)

Shes on their side, so anything they got, she don't want nerfed. She's a spy and is corrupting all Vanu.....And you people are being accomplices.....

You're trying to control us all!

I'm onto you! :P

Devnull
03-17-2005, 04:42 PM
its overpowered, I hate it. Kills my fury in one shot and kills my mag in only a couple. However also you should take into account how hard it is to use. The NC GV bounces atleast 5x more than the vanu one. Its a very difficult weapon to use, especially if a BFR is at all moving.

Stan-The-Man
03-17-2005, 06:15 PM
Hmmm.....I didn't know people used Furys. Cool! 8)

unclej
03-17-2005, 07:16 PM
its NOT overpowered

yes it is 1 V 1
VS bfr AV/ IC
NC bfr AV/partical cannon
the NC will win it drops a VS biffer sheild in seconds it is way to over powerd.

Xenode
03-17-2005, 07:55 PM
I am semi happy with GV's now. If they just work out a few more issues, I would be content. The FV's have got to stop that sitting on restricted ground. I mean the jetpack should not be able to put them on the other side of the mountain. It should be used solely for the purpose of escaping, but not to evade combat. Also I think there needs to be restrictions on BFRs. I would love to see a limit as far as how many BFR's can be used by one empire. This would make the pops equal out better. BFR noobs waiting in line for one continent will be under the assumption the BFR limit is reached and will goto another continent so they can get BFR's. Any comments on this idea?

I am not an advocate of the facility needs to get a BFR. If we say you have to have a dropship facility to get BFR's, the empire who loses the dropship will bitch and moan about things. Alot of people will likely log off.

Corporal Perez
03-19-2005, 01:22 PM
Yep, that thing deserves it like nothing else.
Its the only thing i wont take on with my reaver

Stan-The-Man
03-19-2005, 05:30 PM
Pfff, this is boring now. :roll:

misterselfdistruct
03-20-2005, 04:58 AM
Particle Cannon DOES need a nerf. Aphelion's AV cannon needs a buff since the projectile speed is so damned slow. It requires a BFR to get up-close and personal with its target to do anything worth a damn.

Noyjitat
03-20-2005, 06:41 AM
Particle Cannon DOES need a nerf. Aphelion's AV cannon needs a buff since the projectile speed is so damned slow. It requires a BFR to get up-close and personal with its target to do anything worth a damn.

That thing needs alot of love just like the lancer.

RagOnAStick
03-20-2005, 08:08 AM
its overpowered, I hate it. Kills my fury in one shot and kills my mag in only a couple. However also you should take into account how hard it is to use. The NC GV bounces atleast 5x more than the vanu one. Its a very difficult weapon to use, especially if a BFR is at all moving.

I hope you're kidding, because that thing is PISSEASY.

origionalprankster
03-29-2005, 03:40 PM
Let them keep the same refire rate that it has now, but decrease the damage about 10 percent, and give it the same projectile speed as the vanu GV AV weapon has. Then it will be balanced. Still be powerful like the NC want, but not instant death at long ranges.