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TJ2spike
04-02-2005, 01:38 PM
rev is the original source of this capture :

So review and put forth your thoughts, beside my comments is there anything here to warrant a CSR showing up let alone silencing and banning members.

And if it is abuse how do we respond ?


04/01/2005 11:20:35 : [Command] Liquid-K: Searhus n Oshur would be the smart choices
04/01/2005 11:20:57 : [Command] Kalarifik: NC are going to abandon Searhus and hit a VS cont
04/01/2005 11:21:03 : [Outfit] Bonemonkey: lol loser im on cyc
04/01/2005 11:21:12 : [Command] Liquid-K: NC r busy with Solsar
04/01/2005 11:21:27 : [Command] Kalarifik: most of them, yes
04/01/2005 11:21:27 : [Outfit] Creepo2: i'll go there when we get kicked off
04/01/2005 11:21:35 : [Command] Kalarifik: just as most of the TR are
04/01/2005 11:21:37 : [Outfit] Creepo2: shouldnt be 2 long
04/01/2005 11:21:42 : [Outfit] Creepo2: they have 2 times our pop
04/01/2005 11:22:27 : [Command] Liquid-K: yea. They will invade the other foe's cont to pull em off Solsar
04/01/2005 11:22:27 : [Command] KillerObe: then we should have primary searhus secondary defence
04/01/2005 11:22:45 : [Command] Kalarifik: maybe, doesn't matter anyway
04/01/2005 11:23:05 : [Command] Kalarifik: pops are falling at this point, just hit somewhere non-retarded and keep momentum
04/01/2005 11:23:09 : [Command] Liquid-K: aye, we can always recall if we need defense
04/01/2005 11:23:32 : TesseraC22: We need a Gunner
04/01/2005 11:23:54 : [Command] Kalarifik: is anyone dealing with that TR hack on Ish?
04/01/2005 11:24:18 : [Command] Aut: reveal friendlys shows 1 dot
04/01/2005 11:24:31 : [Outfit] JohnATallon: I'm done for the night. Goodnight everyone.
04/01/2005 11:24:38 : [Outfit] Creepo2: cya
04/01/2005 11:24:39 : [Outfit] AuroraX: goodbye
04/01/2005 11:25:17 : [Command] Kalarifik: reveal hack shows just over 4 mins
04/01/2005 11:25:22 : PLATTNER: Thanks
04/01/2005 11:26:01 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: DanB is currently picking names out of a hat of whom he is going to ban. He will be on later with results.
04/01/2005 11:26:20 : [Command] Aut: oh please me, please oh please oh please
04/01/2005 11:26:24 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: lol
04/01/2005 11:26:27 : [Command] KillerObe: rofl
04/01/2005 11:26:32 : [Hossin All] Pytheas-K: repair the gen
04/01/2005 11:26:36 : [Command] Kalarifik: don't worry, it only includes people with numbers in their names
04/01/2005 11:26:45 : [Command] Aut: lol
04/01/2005 11:26:45 : [Command] burtonshift: im picking names out of a hat for whom i will spam
04/01/2005 11:26:51 : [Global] SharkTank: HONK
04/01/2005 11:26:53 : [Command] fiLLdirt: heh
04/01/2005 11:26:54 : [Command] TangoUniform: that's discrimination, and i won't stand for it kala
04/01/2005 11:26:57 : [Broadcast] Fragalot: Gen down with a few softies and a couple MAXs, meet outside and blitz
04/01/2005 11:27:03 : [Situation Report] Abraxen: HONK
04/01/2005 11:27:13 : [Command] burtonshift: beep
04/01/2005 11:27:16 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: m0o!
04/01/2005 11:27:29 : [Command] fiLLdirt: isnt he banned heh
04/01/2005 11:27:31 : [Command] KillerObe: *fart* oops sry *blush*
04/01/2005 11:27:31 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: I kinda miss m0o
04/01/2005 11:27:47 : [Command] Aut: i wanted to say hi to m0o on /c chat but never got the chance
04/01/2005 11:27:47 : [Situation Report] Abraxen: m0o
04/01/2005 11:28:02 : [Broadcast] Fragalot: MEET OUTSIDE GEN, intill we have 10+ do not bother going in
04/01/2005 11:28:08 : [Command] Francko: he's away at nazi camp
04/01/2005 11:28:13 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: lol
04/01/2005 11:28:19 : [Command] fiLLdirt: moo was ok most of the time ^_^
04/01/2005 11:28:29 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: I miss fill the most. Too bad he was banned.
04/01/2005 11:28:34 : [Command] KillerObe: =P
04/01/2005 11:28:40 : [Command] fiLLdirt: bah i am?
04/01/2005 11:28:45 : [Command] fiLLdirt: ugh
04/01/2005 11:28:46 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: shhhh, you don't know it
04/01/2005 11:28:50 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: YOU'RE NEXT!
04/01/2005 11:29:14 : [Broadcast] FreeHUGS: need help clearing gen, get here
04/01/2005 11:29:18 : [Outfit] Creepo2: alright, im coming to cyssor. max, why arent u on ts?
04/01/2005 11:29:34 : [Command] fiLLdirt: prolly
04/01/2005 11:29:46 : [Situation Report] Sil3ntWarrior: OH NOES!
04/01/2005 11:29:55 : [Broadcast] ChestyLarou: two maxes and 7 infantry in gens
04/01/2005 11:30:04 : [Outfit] Creepo2: actually cys looks boring
04/01/2005 11:30:10 : [Outfit] Creepo2: not 2 many ppl
04/01/2005 11:30:19 : CobraGT03: Thanks
04/01/2005 11:30:21 : slezee: Anytime
04/01/2005 11:30:47 : [Command] Liquid-K: Actually Oshur would be a better decision, Searhus looks to be a 3 way if we go
04/01/2005 11:30:54 : [Command] KingAildiyan: i vote searhus
04/01/2005 11:31:01 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: don't we like 3 ways *cyssor cough*
04/01/2005 11:31:03 : [Command] Liquid-K: but im game fer n e thing
04/01/2005 11:31:03 : [Command] Francko: you know, if we went to oshur we could retain the benefits
04/01/2005 11:31:08 : [Command] Aut: battle puddles!
04/01/2005 11:31:11 : [Command] Kalarifik: problem with Oshur is the restrictions
04/01/2005 11:31:21 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: Eh, now that I think about it...oshur sniping sounds good.
04/01/2005 11:31:22 : [Command] Francko: ya, i hate it but...
04/01/2005 11:31:27 : [Outfit] Creepo2: that didnt damage you????????
04/01/2005 11:31:27 : [Command] Liquid-K: bah brings u back to Beta
04/01/2005 11:31:28 : [Command] KillerObe: true masters can pwn with a pulsar
04/01/2005 11:31:32 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: Or BD
04/01/2005 11:31:32 : [Command] burtonshift: the only benifits i want are nme home cont. benifits
04/01/2005 11:31:41 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: Then you're on the wrong C chat
04/01/2005 11:31:44 : [Outfit] AuroraX: had shields
04/01/2005 11:31:50 : [Outfit] AuroraX: <3
04/01/2005 11:31:52 : [Outfit] Creepo2: ah, i c.............
04/01/2005 11:31:54 : [Command] Aut: dukemartin was killing the gen . . . at baal after we all said no
04/01/2005 11:31:56 : [Command] Francko: its too late to save oshur. forget it
04/01/2005 11:31:58 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: WAIT! Let's set up a raid for amerish!
04/01/2005 11:32:05 : [Outfit] AuroraX: and that bump on the tail just wtf pwnd you...
04/01/2005 11:32:08 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: We could pwn!
04/01/2005 11:32:11 : [Outfit] Creepo2: lol
04/01/2005 11:32:11 : [Outfit] AuroraX: i'll get you another reaver
04/01/2005 11:32:18 : [Outfit] Creepo2: i got a skeeter too
04/01/2005 11:32:46 : [Outfit] Creepo2: wanna have an ant duel?
04/01/2005 11:32:53 : [Outfit] Firework: I'll duel
04/01/2005 11:32:55 : [Outfit] AuroraX: me + driving = pitiful sight
04/01/2005 11:32:57 : [Command] Liquid-K: k, lets get er done
04/01/2005 11:32:57 : [Outfit] Firework: any kind
04/01/2005 11:33:00 : [Outfit] Firework: of duel that is
04/01/2005 11:33:02 : [Outfit] Creepo2: me 2. lets go
04/01/2005 11:33:04 : [Command] Francko: all agreed on searhus?
04/01/2005 11:33:05 : [Outfit] AuroraX: i'll knife duel
04/01/2005 11:33:10 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: Yes!
04/01/2005 11:33:10 : [Command] Abraxen: yep
04/01/2005 11:33:10 : [Outfit] Creepo2: we are in sanc ant dueling
04/01/2005 11:33:11 : [Command] KillerObe: w00t
04/01/2005 11:33:13 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: Crator sniping FTW!
04/01/2005 11:33:13 : [Outfit] Creepo2: ok
04/01/2005 11:33:14 : [Command] fiLLdirt: sure
04/01/2005 11:33:16 : [Command] JBTHEGREAT: wait I didn;lt vote yet
04/01/2005 11:33:20 : [Outfit] Creepo2: after we ant duel tho
04/01/2005 11:33:22 : [Command] JBTHEGREAT: umm YES!
04/01/2005 11:33:24 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: Cyssor is done. Sorry JB
04/01/2005 11:33:25 : [Outfit] Firework: k
04/01/2005 11:33:26 : [Outfit] Bonemonkey: <--- dirtiest ant man ever
04/01/2005 11:33:31 : [Global] Francko: Vanu, its searhus now -- lets go get 'em
04/01/2005 11:33:34 : [Outfit] Firework: i wanna sweeper duel somebody
04/01/2005 11:33:41 : [Global] Liquid-K: Searhus guys! its ur new Primary!
04/01/2005 11:33:49 : [Sanctuary All] Shad0wLurk3r: Come on guys.. we've gotta work together.. The gen at hossin had 1 sqd in there.. but barely anyone came to help..
04/01/2005 11:33:51 : [Global] KillerObe: Everyone come to searhus and come see how good i look !
04/01/2005 11:33:54 : [Global] Sil3ntWarrior: I'm a follower! What they said!
04/01/2005 11:33:55 : [Global] Abraxen: Searhus 4 teh win, free beer and cookies
04/01/2005 11:34:23 : [Global] JBTHEGREAT: I rather milk weith cookies
04/01/2005 11:34:23 : [Global] TJ2SPIKE: ^ concur
04/01/2005 11:34:28 : [Outfit] AuroraX: omfg lol
04/01/2005 11:34:28 : [Command] Liquid-K: weirdos
04/01/2005 11:34:30 : [Command] Kalarifik: I spot one potential flaw with those globals but I won't be so rude as to point it out
04/01/2005 11:34:35 : [Outfit] Creepo2: what happened????
04/01/2005 11:34:36 : [Command] KillerObe: i win with coolest global
04/01/2005 11:34:38 : [Global] Sil3ntWarrior: Come to searhus! Where the lava is hott and the tress are green! No reservation required!
04/01/2005 11:34:40 : [Command] TJ2SPIKE: ?
04/01/2005 11:34:41 : [Command] CSR.DanB: Stop the Global Spam
04/01/2005 11:34:45 : [Outfit] AuroraX: i'm int he middle of H7 dwroning
04/01/2005 11:34:47 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: I told you so!
04/01/2005 11:34:50 : [Command] JBTHEGREAT: ohh no
04/01/2005 11:34:51 : [Outfit] Creepo2: omg lol!
04/01/2005 11:34:51 : [Command] KillerObe: lol
04/01/2005 11:34:52 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: What are the results dan?
04/01/2005 11:34:52 : [Command] WasntMe: oops
04/01/2005 11:34:59 : [Command] Kalarifik: no, the spam wasn't the flaw
04/01/2005 11:35:03 : [Command] Rahl: I believe their globals are on topic
04/01/2005 11:35:05 : [Command] CSR.DanB: The results will be all of you if you keep it up
04/01/2005 11:35:17 : [Command] Spartikus-K: just boot them all
04/01/2005 11:35:18 : [Outfit] Creepo2: where do u want to knife duel at?
04/01/2005 11:35:22 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: Dan, no offense but they were on topic.
04/01/2005 11:35:24 : [Command] Rahl: how about you go deal with some cheaters
04/01/2005 11:35:24 : [Outfit] AuroraX: don't matter to me
04/01/2005 11:35:24 : [Command] razor851: what results?
04/01/2005 11:35:26 : [Command] thesauce: i will be a result
04/01/2005 11:35:29 : [Command] JBTHEGREAT: so young so angry
04/01/2005 11:35:30 : [Command] CSR.DanB: I'm receiving a LOT of complaints about you guys for your globals, this must stop or I'm afraid I will have to take action
04/01/2005 11:35:35 : [Command] Abraxen: just supporting the primary, sheesh
04/01/2005 11:35:39 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: ^ agreed
04/01/2005 11:35:44 : [Command] WasntMe: ok...
04/01/2005 11:35:55 : [Command] KillerObe: ok ok gentlemen and ladys lets chill
04/01/2005 11:35:55 : [Outfit] Creepo2: how about right outside the broadcast gate on searhus
04/01/2005 11:35:57 : [Command] Elana: I'm just here to play the game, so relax with the threats
04/01/2005 11:35:59 : [Command] burtonshift: i was wondering what was wrong with the 5's aggreeing to something and showing the troops the consensus
04/01/2005 11:36:00 : [Outfit] AuroraX: ok
04/01/2005 11:36:01 : [Command] KingAildiyan: globalling targets isn't allowed now?
04/01/2005 11:36:06 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: Imagine that
04/01/2005 11:36:08 : [Outfit] Creepo2: cool, meet u there
04/01/2005 11:36:09 : [Command] Francko: that was not spam.
04/01/2005 11:36:13 : [Command] Pytheas-K: dan, i say silence them all
04/01/2005 11:36:14 : [Command] PLATTNER: i thought the nc and tr were worse than us
04/01/2005 11:36:16 : [Command] Kalarifik: DON'T ASK QUESTIONS KA
04/01/2005 11:36:21 : [Command] Rahl: hey Dan, you need to can it
04/01/2005 11:36:22 : [Global] TJ2SPIKE: Gloabl spam ?
04/01/2005 11:36:22 : [Command] Aut: no globals allowed, they are against the rules
04/01/2005 11:36:23 : [Command] Spartikus-K: globaling targets is allowed .. globaling infantile nonsense isn't
04/01/2005 11:36:28 : [Command] Francko: indeed
04/01/2005 11:36:29 : [Command] Rahl: this is your core audience
04/01/2005 11:36:30 : [Command] razor851: silence them all for exactly 10 seconds
04/01/2005 11:36:33 : [Outfit] Firework: aurora can i sweeper duel you
04/01/2005 11:36:33 : [Command] Abraxen: one global for primary now, only 3 letters long, new rule
04/01/2005 11:36:42 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: and it has to end with a period
04/01/2005 11:36:46 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: nothing more
04/01/2005 11:36:53 : [Command] burtonshift: the edict could have been "clean up your commands"
04/01/2005 11:36:55 : [Command] fiLLdirt: ^_^
04/01/2005 11:36:55 : [Command] Abraxen: the period counts as a letter
04/01/2005 11:36:55 : [Command] WasntMe: Was that spam? We can't global targets and support each other?
04/01/2005 11:36:56 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: No ! either
04/01/2005 11:36:59 : [Command] Elana: you silenced rahl?
04/01/2005 11:36:59 : [Global] TJ2SPIKE: Spam
04/01/2005 11:37:03 : [Outfit] AuroraX: yep
04/01/2005 11:37:06 : [Command] Elana: Silence me too
04/01/2005 11:37:08 : [Command] Spartikus-K: boot him
04/01/2005 11:37:10 : [Command] Elana: I want to be like rahl
04/01/2005 11:37:15 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: YAY!
04/01/2005 11:37:17 : [Outfit] Creepo2: where u at aurora?
04/01/2005 11:37:18 : [Command] Aut: wow, just wow
04/01/2005 11:37:21 : [Outfit] Firework: YAY
04/01/2005 11:37:24 : [Outfit] Firework: where are you
04/01/2005 11:37:26 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: BanD
04/01/2005 11:37:27 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: oops
04/01/2005 11:37:29 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: DanB*
04/01/2005 11:37:30 : [Command] fiLLdirt: sheesh people...
04/01/2005 11:37:30 : [Command] JBTHEGREAT: we FLIRT WITH DISASTER
04/01/2005 11:37:34 : [Command] WasntMe: HE SAID WoW!!!! BOOT HIM!!!
04/01/2005 11:37:38 : [Command] Aut: i have a short easy name so i know i'm next. for some reason
04/01/2005 11:37:40 : [Command] TJ2SPIKE: I think spam is what is we should do
04/01/2005 11:37:47 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: Beat the system!
04/01/2005 11:37:55 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: VIVA LA REVOLUTION!
04/01/2005 11:37:55 : [Command] Abraxen: fight the powa
04/01/2005 11:38:00 : [Command] razor851: numbers are for failures, silence me now plz
04/01/2005 11:38:02 : [Command] Liquid-K: yep Aut is first, me next, easy names
04/01/2005 11:38:07 : [Command] KillerObe: he cant ban us all....wait yes he can
04/01/2005 11:38:10 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: Then me, try not to forget the three.
04/01/2005 11:38:16 : [Command] Kalarifik: personally I still think my banning system is better, sorry razor
04/01/2005 11:38:16 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: It's kinda tricky
04/01/2005 11:38:29 : [Command] Spartikus-K: if you guys think you are so tough .. show some balls and keep spamming
04/01/2005 11:38:30 : [Command] burtonshift: so what was the wording of the complaints against the 5's ?
04/01/2005 11:38:33 : [Outfit] AuroraX: searhus
04/01/2005 11:38:38 : [Command] TJ2SPIKE: hmm ban all us , we cancel our sub and dan = no more job , hmm
04/01/2005 11:38:38 : [Command] Spartikus-K: otherwise you guys are a bunch of 12 year old cowards
04/01/2005 11:38:41 : [Outfit] Firework: where on searhus
04/01/2005 11:38:41 : [Outfit] AuroraX: twr by east WG
04/01/2005 11:38:47 : [Command] Elana: I'm tired of the spam too, but this is not the way you deal with it
04/01/2005 11:38:48 : [Command] thesauce: rofl
04/01/2005 11:38:48 : [Command] razor851: what now spart?
04/01/2005 11:38:52 : [Command] JBTHEGREAT: Ouch Spart want you guys out
04/01/2005 11:38:52 : [Outfit] Firework: k
04/01/2005 11:38:55 : [Command] Abraxen: they globaled our target and the zerg doesn't like to follow orders
04/01/2005 11:38:57 : [Outfit] Creepo2: sec
04/01/2005 11:39:00 : [Command] WasntMe: I hate this game sometimes....
04/01/2005 11:39:01 : [Command] burtonshift: so what was the wording of the complaints against the 5's ?
04/01/2005 11:39:06 : [Command] Spartikus-K: you guys think you are so cute .. keep spamming and get banned
04/01/2005 11:39:18 : [Command] JBTHEGREAT: we're not spaming goofy
04/01/2005 11:39:19 : [Command] TJ2SPIKE: so cancel sub for a week , all the CR5's and watch how much banning is done after that
04/01/2005 11:39:20 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: Obe is cute... I know that.
04/01/2005 11:39:21 : [Global] PLATTNER: need help at sear and is prim ppl
04/01/2005 11:39:22 : [Command] WasntMe: We are talking in C chat... can we get banned for that?
04/01/2005 11:39:22 : [Command] ERADICATION: *Cough* April Fools *Cough*
04/01/2005 11:39:26 : [Command] Abraxen: so now we can't talk on C chat?
04/01/2005 11:39:28 : [Outfit] Creepo2: omg
04/01/2005 11:39:33 : [Outfit] Creepo2: holy crap
04/01/2005 11:39:35 : [Outfit] Creepo2: u dont miss
04/01/2005 11:39:36 : [Global] Sil3ntWarrior: Searhus. That's all I can say now.
04/01/2005 11:39:37 : [Command] Spartikus-K: talking on command chat is fine .. global spam isn't
04/01/2005 11:39:43 : [Outfit] AuroraX: nope
04/01/2005 11:39:44 : [Command] Francko: i have the least tolerance for spam and I assure you that was not spam
04/01/2005 11:39:47 : [Tell] WasntMe: left Tcov?
04/01/2005 11:39:47 : [Command] Aut: it's not april fools on the east coast anymore
04/01/2005 11:39:47 : [Command] JBTHEGREAT: then hush
04/01/2005 11:39:49 : [Outfit] Creepo2: how do u do that?
04/01/2005 11:39:49 : [Command] burtonshift: no talking, no laughing and no having fun !
04/01/2005 11:39:52 : [Outfit] AuroraX: practice
04/01/2005 11:39:58 : [Outfit] Creepo2: a lot i guess
04/01/2005 11:40:03 : [Outfit] KoanVS: ok gang, I'm off for the night. Talk to you later
04/01/2005 11:40:03 : [Outfit] AuroraX: yeah
04/01/2005 11:40:04 : [Outfit] Creepo2: do u have the hand to hand merit?
04/01/2005 11:40:09 : [Outfit] AuroraX: no
04/01/2005 11:40:13 : To WasntMe: Yeah, no one was online anymore.
04/01/2005 11:40:14 : [Outfit] energon5: lfs
04/01/2005 11:40:18 : [Outfit] AuroraX: haven't started working on it, only 12 knife kills
04/01/2005 11:40:20 : [Command] Spartikus-K: a bunch of gutless wonders
04/01/2005 11:40:21 : [Outfit] Creepo2: again?
04/01/2005 11:40:22 : [Tell] razor851: think u can get on TS?
04/01/2005 11:40:30 : [Command] Aut: what if we have fun?
04/01/2005 11:40:34 : [Command] Spartikus-K: you'll spam like nitwits when the CSRs aren't around
04/01/2005 11:40:40 : [Command] KillerObe: gasp aut said the f word
04/01/2005 11:40:47 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: lol
04/01/2005 11:40:47 : [Command] Aut: fun fun fun fun
04/01/2005 11:40:48 : [Command] Spartikus-K: when the CSRs show up .. you guys hide in the corner
04/01/2005 11:40:52 : To razor851: I tried the address and pass and it said bad login name / password
04/01/2005 11:41:02 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: OH NOES! HE SAID FUN!
04/01/2005 11:41:09 : [Command] WasntMe: TJ2 didn't hide you tard
04/01/2005 11:41:10 : [Command] burtonshift: and whats wrong with the corner
04/01/2005 11:41:13 : [Command] PLATTNER: **bleep** everyone and just drink **bleep**'s
04/01/2005 11:41:23 : [Command] TJ2SPIKE: so do we cancel our subs for amonth to show who has the power ?
04/01/2005 11:41:25 : To razor851: I that is what I tried. It was on the forums.
04/01/2005 11:41:26 : [Command] CSR.DanB: Watch the language please
04/01/2005 11:41:30 : [Command] Elana: DanB, you are abusing your power
04/01/2005 11:41:32 : [Command] Spartikus-K: go ahead and cancel ..
04/01/2005 11:41:32 : [Outfit] energon5: lfs
04/01/2005 11:41:34 : [Command] WasntMe: tard is bad?
04/01/2005 11:41:40 : To razor851: I think that*
04/01/2005 11:41:41 : [Global] Nolien: PIE IS FUN.... AND CAPS LOCK IS FUN
04/01/2005 11:41:45 : [Command] Elana: Rahl has been silenced for 24 hours by danb
04/01/2005 11:41:46 : [Tell] razor851: oh
04/01/2005 11:41:50 : [Command] DarkAngelAvenger: all of you guys just shutup
04/01/2005 11:41:53 : [Command] Abraxen: every word is bad
04/01/2005 11:42:00 : [Command] WasntMe: bad is bad?
04/01/2005 11:42:01 : [Command] KingAildiyan: why?
04/01/2005 11:42:01 : [Command] Kalarifik: I never would have believed command chat could have gotten so much worse than when I left last year
04/01/2005 11:42:01 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: Dan...so watching the language means we can't say fun?
04/01/2005 11:42:07 : [Command] JBTHEGREAT: Oh Noes
04/01/2005 11:42:07 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: or pwn?
04/01/2005 11:42:09 : [Command] Aut: quiet time everyone!
04/01/2005 11:42:12 : [Command] fiLLdirt: i work with emotionally imparred kids for a living.. this is allot like work...
04/01/2005 11:42:13 : [Command] Kalarifik: oh wait...yes I could
04/01/2005 11:42:15 : [Command] KingAildiyan: what did rahl say to get silenced?
04/01/2005 11:42:19 : [Command] burtonshift: !@#$%^&*(!)@#%#$#@#$$#@!%^&*%$#@!
04/01/2005 11:42:20 : [Command] PLATTNER: boy 1 cuse word and he appears magically
04/01/2005 11:42:25 : SkiTz: You bet
04/01/2005 11:42:28 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: Yeah
04/01/2005 11:42:35 : [Outfit] AuroraX: ok when he says incoming troops we start, face away from me
04/01/2005 11:42:38 : [Command] Abraxen: simply that our globals weren't spam
04/01/2005 11:42:43 : [Command] WasntMe: Rahl said...
04/01/2005 11:42:43 : [Command] Abraxen: in a not so nice way
04/01/2005 11:42:46 : [Command] WasntMe: Rahl said.........
04/01/2005 11:42:48 : PnPslegend: Don't waste my time
04/01/2005 11:42:52 : [Command] WasntMe: Rahl said......... I am going to play WoW
04/01/2005 11:42:55 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: he said fun didn't he?
04/01/2005 11:42:58 : [Command] JBTHEGREAT: OUr globals are more like Poted Meat
04/01/2005 11:43:02 : [Command] KingAildiyan: he got silenced for saying that?
04/01/2005 11:43:09 : [Command] JBTHEGREAT: OMG
04/01/2005 11:43:10 : [Command] WasntMe: lol no KingA
04/01/2005 11:43:11 : [Command] Abraxen: yes, for saying fun
04/01/2005 11:43:14 : [Outfit] Creepo2: beamer duel anyone?
04/01/2005 11:43:14 : [Command] TJ2SPIKE: rahl said that there was not spam
04/01/2005 11:43:17 : [Outfit] Firework: SURE!!
04/01/2005 11:43:18 : [Outfit] AuroraX: me me
04/01/2005 11:43:22 : [Outfit] Firework: i will
04/01/2005 11:43:24 : [Outfit] Firework: OMGZ
04/01/2005 11:43:27 : [Command] TJ2SPIKE: then got silenced
04/01/2005 11:43:27 : [Command] Abraxen: in not such a polite manner
04/01/2005 11:43:27 : [Command] Aut: Globals put the fun in Fundimental
04/01/2005 11:43:29 : [Command] WasntMe: Then TJ2 globaled "SPAM"
04/01/2005 11:43:29 : [Command] Kalarifik: I don't blame him, I just got a crusader enchant on my arcanite reaper and it rocks in PVP, eh probably just got the same
04/01/2005 11:43:29 : [Outfit] razor851: me
04/01/2005 11:43:33 : [Outfit] Creepo2: no med packs right?
04/01/2005 11:43:33 : [Command] CSR.DanB: look guys, I'm all for having good fun but just keep it out of global. You've got the rest of your empire appealing because
04/01/2005 11:43:39 : [Command] CSR.DanB: of the globals you are doing
04/01/2005 11:43:42 : [Command] TJ2SPIKE: oops same outfit
04/01/2005 11:43:44 : [Outfit] AuroraX: twr by east wg on searhus razor
04/01/2005 11:43:47 : [Outfit] AuroraX: correct
04/01/2005 11:43:52 : [Command] WasntMe: The rest of the outfit can eat me.
04/01/2005 11:43:52 : [Command] Elana: unsilence rahl
04/01/2005 11:43:53 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: Fun? Globals are fun...so....
04/01/2005 11:43:54 : [Outfit] Firework: I WANNA GO FIRST
04/01/2005 11:43:55 : [Command] Elana: he didn't do anything
04/01/2005 11:43:59 : [Command] TJ2SPIKE: is it not a cr5 privlege ?
04/01/2005 11:44:01 : [Command] CSR.DanB: I realize that it's April Fools but it doesn't need to go on an on in global
04/01/2005 11:44:02 : [Command] burtonshift: what globals, ive seen only a couple
04/01/2005 11:44:03 : [Outfit] AuroraX: ok
04/01/2005 11:44:05 : [Command] Elana: stop abusing your power
04/01/2005 11:44:05 : [Command] WasntMe: Tired of all the appealing because we don't global their target THEY want
04/01/2005 11:44:05 : [Outfit] Creepo2: what ts channel are u guys in?
04/01/2005 11:44:07 : [Outfit] AuroraX: face away get on the walls
04/01/2005 11:44:08 : [Command] Aut: oh that
04/01/2005 11:44:11 : [Command] Abraxen: globals to support the primary are bad? Nothing like the CR5s argreeing on a target to lead the troops
04/01/2005 11:44:15 : [Outfit] Firework: air
04/01/2005 11:44:19 : [Outfit] Firework: WW
04/01/2005 11:44:19 : [Command] PLATTNER: some of them are just asses trying to get us in trouble because they belong to tr nc main chars
04/01/2005 11:44:20 : [Command] razor851: can u play dan or u gotta log?
04/01/2005 11:44:21 : [Outfit] Firework: spectre
04/01/2005 11:44:22 : [Outfit] Creepo2: k, let me move there
04/01/2005 11:44:23 : [Command] Aut: yeah, the april fools thing was a little outta hand
04/01/2005 11:44:23 : [Outfit] Firework: i think
04/01/2005 11:44:25 : [Outfit] Firework: k
04/01/2005 11:44:26 : [Outfit] AuroraX: come to skull
04/01/2005 11:44:27 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: Yeah, mass globals tend to help BanD
04/01/2005 11:44:30 : [Global] Elana: For those of you not aware, CSR DanB is abusing his power and silencing CR5's who had nothing to do with the spam
04/01/2005 11:44:30 : [Outfit] Tygerr: you guys got a platoon on searhus?
04/01/2005 11:44:31 : [Command] TJ2SPIKE: there was like 6 globals and half were a support for a attack
04/01/2005 11:44:33 : [Outfit] Firework: you come to spectre
04/01/2005 11:44:33 : [Outfit] AuroraX: cuz it MY channel ^_^
04/01/2005 11:44:34 : [Command] WasntMe: Sorry Aut didn't see that one...
04/01/2005 11:44:36 : [Global] Elana: I recommend you let sony know how you feel
04/01/2005 11:44:37 : [Outfit] Firework: NO MINE
04/01/2005 11:44:40 : [Outfit] energon5: woot uni max
04/01/2005 11:44:48 : [Command] Werehusky: Beat the dead horse...
04/01/2005 11:44:48 : [Command] WasntMe: LMFAO @ ELANA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
04/01/2005 11:44:51 : [Command] SceRiGID: how about we GLOBAL on GAY BFRS THAT killed this game .. would that help?
04/01/2005 11:44:52 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: Ut oh!
04/01/2005 11:45:05 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: Elana you ule!
04/01/2005 11:45:06 : [Outfit] Creepo2: aurora, come in our channel
04/01/2005 11:45:08 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: Rule*
04/01/2005 11:45:09 : [Command] razor851: elana = silenced! OMGWTFPWN3D
04/01/2005 11:45:13 : [Command] TJ2SPIKE: lets see 100 x 10 = ?
04/01/2005 11:45:18 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: Hmmm imagine that...
04/01/2005 11:45:22 : [Command] CallMeMad: Just don't take the lemon pie
04/01/2005 11:45:26 : [Command] fiLLdirt: heh
04/01/2005 11:45:28 : [Command] TJ2SPIKE: maybe 200 x 10
04/01/2005 11:45:33 : To razor851: So um any idea why it wouldn't let me connect?
04/01/2005 11:45:34 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: Elana...I nw ove yu
04/01/2005 11:45:34 : [Command] burtonshift: i found some red pants
04/01/2005 11:45:46 : [Command] Spartikus-K: ban that nitwit too
04/01/2005 11:45:48 : [Command] Aut: people are whiners . . . look on fourmside
04/01/2005 11:45:54 : [Tell] razor851: did u use a " : " in the IP?
04/01/2005 11:45:55 : [Command] Abraxen: like I said, new rule is Globals for primary will be 3 letters long, must include a period, and the period counts as a letter
04/01/2005 11:45:55 : [Command] PLATTNER: true
04/01/2005 11:46:04 : [Command] CallMeMad: you should not admit to finding 'red pants'
04/01/2005 11:46:06 : [Command] JBTHEGREAT: Can I take on of Ps's guns and use it for my WoW toon?
04/01/2005 11:46:06 : [Command] WasntMe: Put the lime in the coconut and drink it all up!
04/01/2005 11:46:08 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: Well, SOE...lookk how long it took to ge t and edit button on the forums
04/01/2005 11:46:10 : [Command] Abraxen: no back up globals
04/01/2005 11:46:11 : To razor851: yes, I copyed the ip and pass from the forums.
04/01/2005 11:46:19 : [Global] Liquid-K: Lock Searhus guys!
04/01/2005 11:46:28 : [Global] TJ2SPIKE: concur^
04/01/2005 11:46:30 : [Global] Sil3ntWarrior: Searhus!
04/01/2005 11:46:32 : [Command] Aut: "Primary : Searhus"
04/01/2005 11:46:39 : [Command] Aut: like that kind of policy
04/01/2005 11:46:42 : [Global] Abraxen: serhus 4 teh win, lock it
04/01/2005 11:46:42 : [Global] WasntMe: Searhus = Primary, VS!
04/01/2005 11:47:03 : [Situation Report] SGshundara: is Searhus primary?
04/01/2005 11:47:17 : MagGirlz: We need Repairs
04/01/2005 11:47:19 : [Command] Liquid-K: lmao at SG
04/01/2005 11:47:24 : [Global] TJ2SPIKE: Rahl and Elana being silenced say they concur so that is 2 more non displayed , movement globals
04/01/2005 11:47:25 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: I think we need more primary globals
04/01/2005 11:47:42 : [Command] KillerObe: lol @ sil3nt
04/01/2005 11:47:46 : MagGirlz: We need Repairs
04/01/2005 11:47:48 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: We're not gaining pop fast enough
04/01/2005 11:47:50 : [Command] Aut: let's play silence half the CR5's
04/01/2005 11:47:51 : [Outfit] Tygerr: lfs searhus
04/01/2005 11:47:54 : [Command] CallMeMad: ok lets hold down the idle chatter. was so much I missed the vote. (was there one?)
04/01/2005 11:47:54 : MagGirlz: You're too kind
04/01/2005 11:47:56 : [Command] Abraxen: unless every cr5 globals the primary it won't work
04/01/2005 11:47:59 : [Outfit] Yugo: lfs searhus
04/01/2005 11:48:00 : ICEfx: I owe you one
04/01/2005 11:48:00 : [Command] Spartikus-K: awesome .. keep spamming nonsense TJ2SPIKE
04/01/2005 11:48:06 : [Global] WasntMe: TJ2SPIKE has been silenced too, yet he concurs. Please hit Searhus HARD!
04/01/2005 11:48:13 : [Command] TJ2SPIKE: so all CR5 s global your support
04/01/2005 11:48:20 : ICEfx: Hail
04/01/2005 11:48:21 : [Global] Sil3ntWarrior: One position availble! Lock it!
04/01/2005 11:48:22 : x4alivin: I'm really sorry
04/01/2005 11:48:23 : [Command] Spartikus-K: support a bunch of 12 year old babies
04/01/2005 11:48:24 : SgtFields: Hail
04/01/2005 11:48:26 : [Command] WasntMe: Not spamming.... supporting the fight on Searhus
04/01/2005 11:48:32 : [Command] Kalarifik: the problem with playing 'silence half the CR5s' is that many people would want to play along
04/01/2005 11:48:35 : [Command] CSR.DanB: Keep it out of Global guys
04/01/2005 11:48:35 : ERADICATION: No
04/01/2005 11:48:43 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: He speaks!
04/01/2005 11:49:07 : [Command] TJ2SPIKE: kep what of the global the affirmative support for movement ?
04/01/2005 11:49:10 : [Command] Abraxen: wait....it's CSR(PERIOD)DanB
04/01/2005 11:49:11 : ICEfx: My fault
04/01/2005 11:49:12 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: Well, our global "spam" worked. We got a pop lock fast.
04/01/2005 11:49:14 : [Command] Aut: Yes, the zerg hates it that we spam but they don't listen till we do
04/01/2005 11:49:16 : [Command] Abraxen: check the name
04/01/2005 11:49:20 : [Command] Abraxen: wait....it's CSR(PERIOD)DanB
04/01/2005 11:49:29 : [Command] WasntMe: who cares Abraxen?
04/01/2005 11:49:32 : MustEatYemen: Hail
04/01/2005 11:49:34 : [Command] Nolien: so i cant global? =(
04/01/2005 11:49:35 : [Command] WasntMe: sigh... you nub.
04/01/2005 11:49:44 : [Command] Abraxen: was the period always there?
04/01/2005 11:49:44 : [Command] Liquid-K: I agree, spamming the Primary does get a better reaction
04/01/2005 11:49:46 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: Globals are now taken out per next patch.
04/01/2005 11:49:46 : [Command] TJ2SPIKE: that is set in stone dan b for CR5's to global support read a forum or 2
04/01/2005 11:49:49 : Phantom1: Help!
04/01/2005 11:49:50 : [Command] Nolien: why must you squish my E-peen like that?
04/01/2005 11:49:52 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: Globals are now taken out per next patch.
04/01/2005 11:49:58 : [Command] Liquid-K: from more than 1 cr 5
04/01/2005 11:50:00 : [Command] Abraxen: was the period always there?
04/01/2005 11:50:05 : [Outfit] Yugo: lfs searhus
04/01/2005 11:50:08 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: Why is there a period?
04/01/2005 11:50:21 : [Command] WasntMe: Abraxen... he can make his name **bleep**.Seepage-CSR if he wants.
04/01/2005 11:50:30 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: hehehe
04/01/2005 11:50:33 : [Command] Abraxen: just checking, calm down
04/01/2005 11:50:36 : Davram: Help!
04/01/2005 11:50:36 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: or BanD
04/01/2005 11:50:36 : [Command] WasntMe: not that he would
04/01/2005 11:50:37 : [Command] PLATTNER: rotfl
04/01/2005 11:50:40 : [Command] TJ2SPIKE: so dan b will be responsible for cancelation of 300 + subscriptions
04/01/2005 11:50:51 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: SOE will love that!
04/01/2005 11:51:03 : [Command] Liquid-K: yea, that would suck
04/01/2005 11:51:04 : [Command] Abraxen: make sure to global that
04/01/2005 11:51:08 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: Let's take bets! Who is next to get silenced!
04/01/2005 11:51:16 : [Command] WasntMe: TJ2!!!
04/01/2005 11:51:18 : [Command] KingAildiyan: tj
04/01/2005 11:51:19 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: I vote DanB
04/01/2005 11:51:23 : [Command] KillerObe: tj
04/01/2005 11:51:24 : [Command] Aut: next patch : All CR5's reset to CR0
04/01/2005 11:51:26 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: anyone else?
04/01/2005 11:51:26 : [Command] JBTHEGREAT: PWND
04/01/2005 11:51:27 : [Command] PLATTNER: he'll just get a promotion
04/01/2005 11:51:30 : [Command] Aut: just wait for it
04/01/2005 11:51:30 : [Global] TJ2SPIKE: I suggest SOE needs to perform random drug tests on their CSR's
04/01/2005 11:51:36 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: hahaha!
04/01/2005 11:51:37 : [Command] WasntMe: Told ya....
04/01/2005 11:51:39 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: OMG!
04/01/2005 11:51:39 : [Command] Abraxen: LOL
04/01/2005 11:51:40 : [Command] WasntMe: OWNED
04/01/2005 11:51:44 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: PWNED!!!!!!!!!!
04/01/2005 11:51:46 : [Command] KillerObe: rofl
04/01/2005 11:51:48 : [Command] CallMeMad: Once again. Please take your idle chat somewhere else.
04/01/2005 11:51:51 : [Command] Aut: wow, just wow
04/01/2005 11:51:53 : [Command] Liquid-K: PWNED
04/01/2005 11:51:56 : [Command] ERADICATION: Hawt Dog we have a weiner!
04/01/2005 11:51:58 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: Hey Dan....getting any hints?
04/01/2005 11:51:59 : [Situation Report] MightyMouser: guys you are causeing people to turn globals off please shut up
04/01/2005 11:51:59 : [Command] KingAildiyan: did he get silenced?
04/01/2005 11:52:03 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: Hey Dan....getting any hints?
04/01/2005 11:52:06 : [Command] TJ2SPIKE: me ?
04/01/2005 11:52:10 : [Command] KingAildiyan: wow
04/01/2005 11:52:10 : [Command] WasntMe: LMFAO
04/01/2005 11:52:16 : [Situation Report] PLATTNER: getting low on beer
04/01/2005 11:52:18 : [Command] WasntMe: STOP SAYING WoW!!!!
04/01/2005 11:52:21 : [Command] JBTHEGREAT: LEts put a pool on this
04/01/2005 11:52:21 : [Command] KingAildiyan: how did rahl get silenced but not you?
04/01/2005 11:52:21 : [Command] Abraxen: omg, this is the first time I like cr5 chat over cr4
04/01/2005 11:52:26 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: hehe
04/01/2005 11:52:26 : Davram: No
04/01/2005 11:52:26 : [Situation Report] ERADICATION: WoW
04/01/2005 11:52:30 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: WoW!
04/01/2005 11:52:31 : [Situation Report] WasntMe: OMFG APPEAL GLOBAL SPAMM OMFG
04/01/2005 11:52:33 : [Command] TJ2SPIKE: you really banned and silenced the wrong guys dan
04/01/2005 11:52:33 : [Command] Kalarifik: because they are going to ban TJ, takes longer
04/01/2005 11:52:35 : [Command] JBTHEGREAT: I have $20 on TJ gettgni silenced
04/01/2005 11:52:46 : [Command] Aut: this is so pointless
04/01/2005 11:52:47 : Campo: alt f4 pwns j00!
04/01/2005 11:52:47 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: I got 20 on Dan
04/01/2005 11:52:49 : [Command] TJ2SPIKE: Sov runs the stats site you are so smart
04/01/2005 11:52:51 : [Command] WasntMe: I got $20 on TJ getting banned
04/01/2005 11:52:57 : [Command] Spartikus-K: I can't wait
04/01/2005 11:52:57 : [Command] Kalarifik: that's my guess anyway
04/01/2005 11:53:04 : [Command] KingAildiyan: i think it's a safe bet
04/01/2005 11:53:06 : [Command] TangoUniform: not sov, rev runs it.
04/01/2005 11:53:08 : [Command] KingAildiyan: it's worth it though
04/01/2005 11:53:12 : [Command] WasntMe: lol
04/01/2005 11:53:13 : [Command] Spartikus-K: c'mon spike .. keep spamming toughguy
04/01/2005 11:53:16 : [Searhus All] Francko: lets get ready to attack Laka and stop that TR hack. Move out now...
04/01/2005 11:53:16 : [Command] TJ2SPIKE: 1000 hits an hour guess what will happen
04/01/2005 11:53:16 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: Silenced for the win!
04/01/2005 11:53:27 : [Command] Aut: and command chat . . . off. I expect a full report when i return sil3nt
04/01/2005 11:53:28 : [Command] TJ2SPIKE: not yeet
04/01/2005 11:53:36 : [Command] Plut0: rofl that was funny
04/01/2005 11:53:38 : [Command] Spartikus-K: c'mon yah ninny .. keep spamming
04/01/2005 11:53:51 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: Dan, are you crying?
04/01/2005 11:53:56 : [Command] WasntMe: LMFAO
04/01/2005 11:53:57 : [Command] Abraxen: what is spam made of?
04/01/2005 11:54:03 : [Command] JBTHEGREAT: pig Guts
04/01/2005 11:54:04 : [Command] WasntMe: globals
04/01/2005 11:54:04 : [Command] KillerObe: pork sholder
04/01/2005 11:54:07 : x4alivin: We need a Hacker
04/01/2005 11:54:13 : [Command] ERADICATION: Inexpensive goat cheese.
04/01/2005 11:54:20 : [Command] WasntMe: ERADICATION
04/01/2005 11:54:24 : [Command] striker21: does anyone know of a ride for laka LLU?
04/01/2005 11:54:27 : NightEvac: Thank you
04/01/2005 11:54:27 : [Command] JBTHEGREAT: can I not get spam and get Potted MEat instad?
04/01/2005 11:54:29 : x4alivin: Thanks
04/01/2005 11:54:34 : [Command] ERADICATION: I'm not in spam!
04/01/2005 11:54:39 : [Command] WasntMe: LIAR
04/01/2005 11:54:40 : [Command] PLATTNER: mm spam on toast
04/01/2005 11:54:41 : [Command] KillerObe: spam n' eggs for the win
04/01/2005 11:54:51 : [Command] WasntMe: ERADICATION IS SPAM!
04/01/2005 11:54:51 : [Command] ERADICATION: Ok, just a little bit though.
04/01/2005 11:54:54 : [Command] Abraxen: so I guess we're fine now, eh?
04/01/2005 11:54:56 : [Command] WasntMe: cool
04/01/2005 11:55:04 : [Command] WasntMe: Abraxen = Moo
04/01/2005 11:55:09 : [Command] KillerObe: he doesnt care about command chat..just goblas
04/01/2005 11:55:15 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: Dan is currently putting in his transfer papers to CSR for WoW
04/01/2005 11:55:20 : [Command] PLATTNER: next update patch nerf all csr's
04/01/2005 11:55:20 : [Command] WasntMe: goblas?!?!?!?!
04/01/2005 11:55:27 : [Situation Report] SGshundara: tr/hanish/ish
04/01/2005 11:55:40 : [Situation Report] MightyMouser: Iah/Hanish hacked (TR)
04/01/2005 11:55:46 : [Outfit] Tygerr: me
04/01/2005 11:55:49 : [Command] Abraxen: still 1 spot on serhus....need it filled
04/01/2005 11:55:55 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: OH NOES!
04/01/2005 11:55:55 : [Situation Report] MightyMouser: Ish
04/01/2005 11:56:01 : [Situation Report] ERADICATION: oh oh. Tr has 16% pop on Ish.
04/01/2005 11:56:02 : [Global] WasntMe: SGshundera reports tr/hanish/ish. Please respond.
04/01/2005 11:56:15 : Extrawow: Fabulous
04/01/2005 11:56:27 : [Searhus All] PLATTNER: danb said free drinks at akua
04/01/2005 11:56:38 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: No he doesn't...that's too much fun!
04/01/2005 11:56:47 : [Command] Abraxen: don't say the F word
04/01/2005 11:56:48 : [Command] KillerObe: gasp now sil3nt said the f word
04/01/2005 11:56:51 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: fun = bad
04/01/2005 11:57:02 : [Situation Report] SGshundara: campo said it , i just passed it on
04/01/2005 11:57:09 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: wait! @un!
04/01/2005 11:57:15 : [Command] Spartikus-K: hey silent .. isn't it for you to clean your room or something
04/01/2005 11:57:21 : [Global] WasntMe: Correction: campo reports tr/hanish/ish. Please respond.
04/01/2005 11:57:22 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: ummm
04/01/2005 11:57:24 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: maybe
04/01/2005 11:57:27 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: I don't know
04/01/2005 11:57:33 : [Command] PLATTNER: please clean my house
04/01/2005 11:57:34 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: No, not really.
04/01/2005 11:57:39 : [Searhus All] striker21: requesting a little air support to cover LLU
04/01/2005 11:57:45 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: Why? you wanna clean it?
04/01/2005 11:58:09 : [Command] PLATTNER: i need my house cleaned
04/01/2005 11:58:57 : [Command] Abraxen: maybe some vanu want to do it for you....check
04/01/2005 11:59:24 : [Global] Liquid-K: Ishundar needs a Squad to resecure it.
04/01/2005 11:59:43 : [Outfit] Yugo: where you going now?
04/02/2005 12:00:01 : [Command] Aut: yay, happy April second from the Central time zone!
04/02/2005 12:00:20 : [Command] KingAildiyan: omg yay!!!
04/02/2005 12:00:31 : [Command] DarkAngelAvenger: ....
04/02/2005 12:00:35 : [Command] ERADICATION: Lets give it up for Wisconsin.
04/02/2005 12:00:39 : [Command] WasntMe: no
04/02/2005 12:00:45 : [Command] WasntMe: *HELL no
04/02/2005 12:00:47 : [Command] Aut: that's my state that i'm in . . .
04/02/2005 12:00:51 : [Outfit] Bonemonkey: where can i get my max healed and reloaded at?
04/02/2005 12:00:57 : [Command] Aut: stalker
04/02/2005 12:01:12 : [Searhus All] striker21: thx you orionmac for providing ride for LLU
04/02/2005 12:01:13 : [Command] WasntMe: F'in cow milking goat herding cheese freaks!!
04/02/2005 12:01:21 : [Command] Aut: i agree
04/02/2005 12:01:24 : [Outfit] OperationMindcrime: In a biolab
04/02/2005 12:01:25 : [Command] WasntMe: lol
04/02/2005 12:01:40 : [Command] Liquid-K: ^ concur
04/02/2005 12:01:43 : [Outfit] Creepo2: u CAN reload at any equip terminal tho
04/02/2005 12:01:46 : [Situation Report] Orionmac: wow, my pleasure, usually no recognition
04/02/2005 12:01:50 : [Command] Aut: wow, i wasn't born here and i hate it
04/02/2005 12:02:06 : [Command] WasntMe: BF2 > PS
04/02/2005 12:02:23 : ERADICATION: Cease fire!
04/02/2005 12:02:24 : ERADICATION: Cease fire!
04/02/2005 12:02:27 : ERADICATION: Hail
04/02/2005 12:02:33 : SkinlessJACK: Hail
04/02/2005 12:02:36 : [Outfit] Bonemonkey: nm i founs an adv med terminal
04/02/2005 12:02:37 : [Command] JBTHEGREAT: wasntme know when that comes out?
04/02/2005 12:02:45 : [Outfit] Bonemonkey: found*
04/02/2005 12:02:45 : [Command] WasntMe: June 6th?
04/02/2005 12:02:57 : [Command] Aut: never
04/02/2005 12:02:57 : [Command] JBTHEGREAT: I hope sooner than that
04/02/2005 12:04:01 : [Outfit] Bonemonkey: wow! that was one nasty fart
04/02/2005 12:04:28 : [Command] Abraxen: well congrats folks, I think that was my first cr5 drama
04/02/2005 12:04:31 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: Cream soda > NC and TR
04/02/2005 12:04:33 : [Searhus All] PLATTNER: need mas to aklua
04/02/2005 12:04:39 : SkinlessJACK: Hail
04/02/2005 12:04:39 : [Command] KillerObe: Command chat we know drama!
04/02/2005 12:04:42 : ERADICATION: Hail
04/02/2005 12:04:48 : [Searhus All] PLATTNER: ams
04/02/2005 12:04:56 : [Command] KillerObe: or was that TNT?
04/02/2005 12:05:09 : [Command] KillerObe: i always get the 2 confused
04/02/2005 12:05:18 : [Command] WasntMe: ...
04/02/2005 12:05:23 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: ...
04/02/2005 12:05:26 : [Command] WasntMe: ...
04/02/2005 12:05:29 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: ...
04/02/2005 12:05:31 : [Command] WasntMe: ...
04/02/2005 12:05:33 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: ...
04/02/2005 12:05:33 : [Command] Aut: ...
04/02/2005 12:05:34 : [Command] WasntMe: ...
04/02/2005 12:05:36 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: ...
04/02/2005 12:05:37 : [Command] WasntMe: ...
04/02/2005 12:05:42 : [Command] DarkAngelAvenger: noobs...
04/02/2005 12:05:43 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: ...
04/02/2005 12:05:44 : [Command] WasntMe: ...
04/02/2005 12:05:46 : [Command] striker21: zzz...zzz...zzz
04/02/2005 12:05:47 : [Command] KillerObe: are u guys calling conts or something?
04/02/2005 12:05:57 : [Command] Aut: we are too scared to
04/02/2005 12:06:03 : [Command] Abraxen: lol
04/02/2005 12:06:05 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: Yes, it's too much fun
04/02/2005 12:06:09 : [Command] CKCrim: its morse code
04/02/2005 12:06:09 : [Command] KillerObe: lol
04/02/2005 12:06:10 : [Command] Noyjitat: spam!
04/02/2005 12:06:18 : [Command] KillerObe: ...---..--..---
04/02/2005 12:06:19 : [Command] striker21: its morse code
04/02/2005 12:06:20 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: Spam! Not just for lunch!
04/02/2005 12:06:21 : [Global] Francko: Vidar Esamir needs a quick resecure
04/02/2005 12:06:26 : [Command] Abraxen: lol globals in morse code would be great
04/02/2005 12:06:31 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: Mmmm
04/02/2005 12:06:36 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: Spam
04/02/2005 12:06:46 : [Command] Liquid-K: Beep Beep Beeeeep Beep
04/02/2005 12:06:50 : [Outfit] Bonemonkey: creep u in a squad?
04/02/2005 12:07:05 : [Command] Aut: . . . - - - . . .
04/02/2005 12:07:05 : [Searhus All] OperationMindcrime: About 15 TRx just hit Iva
04/02/2005 12:07:06 : [Command] CKCrim: hmm must mean cyssor!
04/02/2005 12:07:06 : PHatty: Thanks
04/02/2005 12:07:07 : Yugo: We need Repairs
04/02/2005 12:07:13 : [Outfit] Creepo2: yeah, just dueling tho
04/02/2005 12:07:16 : MagGirlz: You're too kind
04/02/2005 12:07:21 : [Outfit] Bonemonkey: oh lol
04/02/2005 12:07:23 : Yugo: We need Repairs
04/02/2005 12:07:26 : [Command] fiLLdirt: is danb still here? or did he log..
04/02/2005 12:07:27 : NightEvac: We need a Medic
04/02/2005 12:07:31 : [Command] CKCrim: what they would think
04/02/2005 12:07:33 : [Command] KillerObe: who csr
04/02/2005 12:07:40 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: Dan is crying
04/02/2005 12:07:42 : MagGirlz: Yes
04/02/2005 12:07:53 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: So am I
04/02/2005 12:07:56 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: I miss fun
04/02/2005 12:08:02 : Campo: We need a Medic
04/02/2005 12:08:04 : [Command] Abraxen: no F words
04/02/2005 12:08:07 : [Command] Sil3ntWarrior: SORRY!
04/02/2005 12:08:08 : Campo: Appreciate it
04/02/2005 12:08:10 : [Command] KillerObe: your a cr5 no fun alowed
04/02/2005 12:08:11 : PHatty: Anytime
04/02/2005 12:08:14 : Davram: Attack their Spawn Tubes
04/02/2005 12:08:17 : BeastMaster: Help!
04/02/2005 12:08:18 : PHatty: Inbound enemy vehicles!
04/02/2005 12:08:19 : Sidar: You bet
04/02/2005 12:08:19 : BeastMaster: Thanks
04/02/2005 12:08:21 : [Command] Aut: fun fat freak food fab flap fog fig frog
04/02/2005 12:08:32 : [Command] Abraxen: Aut now you've done it
04/02/2005 12:08:33 : [Command] Francko: not sure what the point of holding iva gen is...

mental888
04-02-2005, 02:05 PM
yay!

mental888
04-02-2005, 02:05 PM
I was already baned before all that started :(

FalanxRifter
04-02-2005, 02:11 PM
I was already baned before all that started :(

What'd you get banned for? That fake tell from Rahl global?

mental888
04-02-2005, 02:36 PM
yep

kazzmann5000
04-02-2005, 02:47 PM
I say TK spart

Aut
04-02-2005, 03:04 PM
that fake tell didn't even display right on my screen resolution.

Devnull
04-02-2005, 03:20 PM
Was this all some kind of april fool's joke? :?

BfnFizz
04-02-2005, 04:07 PM
I say TK spart
lol, that's funny

martyr
04-02-2005, 05:29 PM
my biggest concern is that danB doesn't answer to anyone as of yesterday, as tom lockard announced his departure yesterday afternoon, a matter of hours before this incident.

Laylos
04-02-2005, 05:32 PM
With the lessing CSRs DanB is all they got left.

Looks like Bullshit, smells like bullshit, then its bullshit to me. Nothing there has not been done over and over since the game began exept more people agreeing on the target. There is no infraction of the global rules by Rahl or any of the cr5s that globaled to gpnl.drawRect(shadowrect.x, shadowrect.y, shadowrect.width, shadowrect.height); support the chosen target. Regardless of what the condition is of DanB the way he acted was very unprofessional and will reflect SOE. They will probably have to do something as a result of it because they will not be able to sit on it. By the way I believe DanB has been tranfered to Star Wars as well and is only in PS as a part time deal...least thats the rumor.

Stan-The-Man
04-02-2005, 05:54 PM
Gah, you assholes have any idea how long it took to read all that crap? :roll:

Anyway, I really don't think those bans of Rahl and others we're justified.

I think DanB was just being an asshole. So he got a lot of appeals, so what? That doesn't neccesarily warrant a removal, IMO.

Bah.

WasntMe
04-02-2005, 08:06 PM
I was already baned before all that started :(

What'd you get banned for? That fake tell from Rahl global?

WHAT?!?!?! Explain please.

Blackace
04-02-2005, 08:14 PM
Wait...if DanB is all they have left then........

BETS ON HOW LONG IT TAKES FOR IT TO COME DOWN TO 1 PERSON ON AN EMPIRE! :P

thesauce
04-02-2005, 08:16 PM
Essentially he was banned for telling csrdanb to "can it" from what I've read. So really what we've witnessed is a flexing of muscles to show that there is a 'new sheriff in town'. How we'll handle this obviously has yet to be determined. To me, cancelling subs is more giving in than anything else...I would recommend urging outfit members and freinds to appeal him daily. Planetside is a cash cow for SOE now...minimal staffing and dev, low maintainance. Enough appeals occuring regularly will make things happen.

FalanxRifter
04-02-2005, 08:32 PM
I was already baned before all that started :(

What'd you get banned for? That fake tell from Rahl global?

WHAT?!?!?! Explain please.

Mental did this:

[Global]mental888: .................................................. .....................................
[Tell]Rahl: OMG U SUX!!

Apparently someone appealed him for it... although truth be told it was kinda funny at the time since I knew Rahl didn't care enough to appeal him or anything. It just went hand in hand with everything else last night, which at this point, I'm kinda glad I missed.

VincentGuille
04-02-2005, 08:38 PM
I was already baned before all that started :(

What'd you get banned for? That fake tell from Rahl global?

WHAT?!?!?! Explain please.

Mental did this:

[Global]mental888: .................................................. .....................................
[Tell]Rahl: OMG U SUX!!

Apparently someone appealed him for it... although truth be told it was kinda funny at the time since I knew Rahl didn't care enough to appeal him or anything. It just went hand in hand with everything else last night, which at this point, I'm kinda glad I missed.

you got banned for THAT?

now i feel bad for sending you that tell...

"my chat box is stretched failure ;)"

Rahl
04-02-2005, 09:00 PM
SOE is now explaining to me that my April Fools global was what got me silenced. Man, what a prick...can't take a joke.

I suspect that mental888's global that tricked people into thinking I was sending abusive tells is what made people report me.

Me telling Dan to can it didn't help.

Overall, I'm just convinced Dan is a prick. He didn't communicate with me at all, he just gave me a line of bull about the silence lasting 24 hours and left.

Today, almost 24 hours later, another CSR responded to my appeal demanding to be unsilenced and given an explanation.

I'm speaking with Sam about it. I think Dan was out of line and was the true cause of trouble. If Dan was a CR5 he'd have been suspended for community disruption by now. But as a CSR he is just peachy I guess.

VincentGuille
04-02-2005, 09:20 PM
im wondering who our new community guy/art director/CSR is gonna be. so many people leaving, i feel bad for sam having so much put on him.

oh and rahl, who got banned? was it mental that TJ was refering 2?

Blackace
04-02-2005, 10:05 PM
It's one of those times when I wish I was DanB's boss, he'd be fired so fast his head would spin.

WasntMe
04-03-2005, 12:06 AM
Sorry Rahl and the like but TJ2SPIKE got silenced (if he did) for good reason. I was LMFAO with some of the stuff he was saying. This doesn't mean I like the CSRs it just means TJ was REALLY poking an already heated conversation.

Funny shit though TJ!

rev
04-03-2005, 12:29 AM
Just for the record, I am not the original source of that log file as I was not online at the time. I copied the chat log from tomwoolley2's post in the following thread on page 3:

http://psforums.station.sony.com/ps/board/message?board.id=psemerald&message.id=220936&page=3

Stan-The-Man
04-03-2005, 12:34 AM
Overall, I'm just convinced Dan is a prick.

WasntMe
04-03-2005, 12:57 AM
Just for the record, I am not the original source of that log file as I was not online at the time. I copied the chat log from tomwoolley2's post in the following thread on page 3:

http://psforums.station.sony.com/ps/board/message?board.id=psemerald&message.id=220936&page=3

FYI.... TomWooley = Eradication = failure :lol:

KelesK
04-03-2005, 03:03 AM
Overall, I'm just convinced Dan is a prick.

I supporteh teh Rahlz0rz

misterselfdistruct
04-03-2005, 03:31 AM
BanD's a prick anyway. If you ask me, the occasional global spam helps boost the morale of other players.

keenan
04-03-2005, 03:58 AM
Danb is an asshole i think, hes suspended me and everything thats why i canceld my sub awhile ago

Noyjitat
04-03-2005, 05:14 AM
Can we drop this subject already. If u want something done, start pming sam on the soe forums.

Campo
04-03-2005, 05:30 AM
W00t, my name appears in that chat log TWICE. Anyway, so I can see why you guys got possibly silenced. From what that chat log reads, there was tons of smart ass remarks towards somebody who just said "Quit the global spam" and actually has the power to do something about it. Now, of course he probably did the silencing and suspending for reasons that wrong, but a better approach to the problem would be to just say OK and move on. I mean, if your boss came up to you and said, "Stop screwing around or ill fire you." would you argue? Probably not, since he can do what he wants with you wether you like it or not. He's the boss. Now, so like that, Dan can do what he likes to you. Then it comes to his bosses. If they dont agree with what he did, they fix the problem, adressing the players and dan himself. So, probably the best fix in this situation would be just to have accepted what he said and not argue over it and start this whole flame war.

But, thats just my opinion...

VanuCr5
04-03-2005, 09:11 AM
Ah I wish I was there :( On the top global spams I am Number 9... I wanted to get dan-b pissed off. But I dont understand why Dan-b is so diffrent to people on Emerald Vanu he just wants to ban everyone but when he goes on Markov NC he is nice to everyone and just haves fun He even Rename a guy named GoldHaze1 and then I asked for a rename to see what he will say and he send a bullshit on appeal how you CAN NOT RENAME IN THE GAME like u said Rahl :lol: But I agree he is Totally Off Line.

Stan-The-Man
04-03-2005, 09:29 AM
W00t, my name appears in that chat log TWICE. Anyway, so I can see why you guys got possibly silenced. From what that chat log reads, there was tons of smart ass remarks towards somebody who just said "Quit the global spam" and actually has the power to do something about it. Now, of course he probably did the silencing and suspending for reasons that wrong, but a better approach to the problem would be to just say OK and move on. I mean, if your boss came up to you and said, "Stop screwing around or ill fire you." would you argue? Probably not, since he can do what he wants with you wether you like it or not. He's the boss. Now, so like that, Dan can do what he likes to you. Then it comes to his bosses. If they dont agree with what he did, they fix the problem, adressing the players and dan himself. So, probably the best fix in this situation would be just to have accepted what he said and not argue over it and start this whole flame war.

But, thats just my opinion...

You make a very good point. But he could have just dropped Rahl out of Command Chat for a time, or just kicked him out of the server. I don't think there was a need for an immediate 1-day ban. Especially not for Global Spam that does not seem as bad as Dan wants to make it.

But, as you say, he has bosses too......Oh wait.. :roll:

DennisTheMenace
04-03-2005, 11:17 AM
Maybe I should step in, be un political and not side with my outfit mates.

Rahl (and company) you guys were out of line and people reported you so Dan had to take action.

I'm fed up with seeing stupid shit on global. I wish they would just demote you guys when ever you act out then you have to regain the rank before you can annoy the shit out of me again.

I don’t agree with duffman's banning i think the thrusting towards targets was the most hilarious thing ever and we just an alternative type of leadership.

There will never be only one person in the chain of command for action being taken. You only see DanB as the one taking action but he has to go to a supervisor and explain the situation. (Even if planetside dosnt have a specified supervisor all CSR's on the floor are trained and any supervisor on the floor has the authority.)

Stan-The-Man
04-03-2005, 11:41 AM
What about the people that we're just asking what the hell was going on? They should have been banned as well? :roll:

Ah, never mind. This crap is gettin' old anyway. :P

WasntMe
04-03-2005, 12:08 PM
Maybe I should step in, be un political and not side with my outfit mates.

Rahl (and company) you guys were out of line and people reported you so Dan had to take action.

I'm fed up with seeing stupid shit on global. I wish they would just demote you guys when ever you act out then you have to regain the rank before you can annoy the shit out of me again.

I don’t agree with duffman's banning i think the thrusting towards targets was the most hilarious thing ever and we just an alternative type of leadership.

There will never be only one person in the chain of command for action being taken. You only see DanB as the one taking action but he has to go to a supervisor and explain the situation. (Even if planetside dosnt have a specified supervisor all CSR's on the floor are trained and any supervisor on the floor has the authority.)

And this is where it comes into play (which you seem to not realize). YOU may have thought the Duffman thing was funny. Others evidently did not. Others think the spam you think is NOT funny, IS funny. Please realize the whole situation yourself.

DennisTheMenace
04-03-2005, 02:05 PM
The duffman thing he was still guiding the troops.

When you guys global "honk" over and over again its not helping anyone but it sure does hurt my keyboars /-r-e-p-o-r-t keys.

Stan-The-Man
04-03-2005, 02:35 PM
Ignore the goddamn text then. Or turn off Global/Command channel, or something.

Only people who /report for spam are assholes.

martyr
04-03-2005, 03:08 PM
I'm fed up with seeing stupid shit on global. I wish they would just demote you guys when ever you act out then you have to regain the rank before you can annoy the shit out of me again.

here's the thing... annoying another player is not grounds for punitive action.

more importantly, annoying a CSR is not grounds for punitive action.

disrupting the game is grounds for it.

and here's what i have to say from that point of view:

danB disrupted my game. severely.

he threatened to silence/suspend me without provocation, and he DID take action against three of my most trusted commanders (rahl, elana, mental) upon whom i rely for strategic direction.


examples:

1. TRx annoys me far more than a global with an april fools' joke, but they'll never get hit for it. they disrupt my play experience by charging me with five rexoshield MCGs, and they regularly ruin my plans. so much, in fact, that i don't even pay attention to my chat window where i might see an importart global.


2. if one of my customers told me to 'can it' in a public environment, i would NEVER disconnect their service as a result, or stop their outbound packets. ESPECIALLY without discussing the event with them. that is atrocious customer service.

Stan-The-Man
04-03-2005, 04:48 PM
Gotta love martyr and his civil, informative, explanatory posts of pwnage.....

<3 :mrgreen:

VentoX
04-03-2005, 09:16 PM
danb is a jerk, i hope he burns in hell.

Rei
04-04-2005, 12:24 AM
I mean, if your boss came up to you and said, "Stop screwing around or ill fire you." would you argue? Probably not, since he can do what he wants with you wether you like it or not. He's the boss.
But, thats just my opinion...

The point is, DanB is NOT my boss... he works for me. And for EVERYONE of us. We're paying his salary not the other way around. Now he's there to keep "game play" from being disrupted. But what happens to the game play when you bully the CR5's to the point that they don't want to chance exerciseing the powers that they've EARNED? Remember, we earned the ability to make Globals. Earned it by leading, by making the game fun and interesting. It's our game, we're the community. Now TJ may have goaded him a bit but I imagine TJ was pretty pissed about what had already happened to his friends. You don't back off when someone wrongs your friends, so kudos to him for that, I think he could have done it smarter but I suspect the end result would have been the same.

Garet
04-04-2005, 10:34 AM
Things haven't really changed on CR5 /c, have they?

Personally, I would rather have SOE take the stance of "ban/silence first, ask questions later". In general, the Vanu CR5's need to shut the hell up in global.

DanB is certainly not always right, but most of you are wrong more than he is.

Stan-The-Man
04-04-2005, 11:02 AM
Then you're full of shit.

You say they can shut up. I say you can ignore what they say.

As martyr said, just because they bother you doesn't mean they can be just arbitrarily and immedietely banned.

Don't like what they say? Close your stupid chat window then.

I don't like spam much, either, but there's times when it'll be almost inevitable. Like maybe APRIL FOOLS day.

I still stick with my opinion that DanB is just an asshole. I've never heard a lot of good things about him, really.

Kalarifik
04-04-2005, 12:27 PM
The first time I got banned was for asking Dan to explain why I was being threatened with 'action'. Rather than answer I got banned for harassing a CSR. :roll:

Good to see some things in life never change.

Reija
04-04-2005, 01:20 PM
Hmm, I would like to take this time to remind the playerbase about several innovative features that PlanetSide not only shipped with, but were upgraded several times.

First off, is the lovely Clicky-Bar on the Chat Box.

Yes, this fine piece of software engineering COMPLETELY CLOSES that darn chat box. What does this do for you, my friends? Well . . .

1. It stops those nasty hate tells. And you thought your dad had a potty-mouth.
2. Those annoying recruitment globals in the sanctuary? NO MORE WILL THEY OFFEND YOU!
3. Random CR5 Chatter - gone. Completely.

All of this can be yours, if you click that little bar on the chatbox.

Now, if getting rid of the chatbox is a bit drastic, the wonderful PS Dev Team also improved the following functions:

/ignore add <playername>

With this wonderful function, you can stop recieving text from said player. I'd go on about the function, but honestly, it's that fucking simple. [Reija pays FCC $500,000 for his verbal malfunction]

"But Mr. Reija, what if I want to ignore every single CR5? My ignore list would be as long as your johnson!"

Well little jimmy, I've got a great new feature to tell you about!

It's called Turning off the Global Chat Channel. In fact, you can turn off ANY chat channel! It's simple. Just click the middle button on your ChatBox and Un-check any chat channel you no longer wish to recieve. HONESTLY, (say it with me folks!) IT'S THAT SIMPLE!

You know what folks, you've been great tonight. If you'll look under your seat, you'll find a complimentary tube of Reija-Strength Vagi-sil. Simply apply to your wounded egos, bruised psyches (that's pronounce SYKE-EEs) and artificially enhanced sexual organs. In no time at all, you'll realize that it doesn't do a damn thing. So, instead, I recommend that you use the tips that I have presented before you today to make your PlanetSide experience more enjoyable.

This has been a Reija Production.

(Flash Coming Soon)

Stan-The-Man
04-04-2005, 07:01 PM
I think Reija and martyr win. Period. :mrgreen:

johnypilgrim
04-04-2005, 10:03 PM
I mean, if your boss came up to you and said, "Stop screwing around or ill fire you." would you argue? Probably not, since he can do what he wants with you wether you like it or not. He's the boss.
But, thats just my opinion...

The point is, DanB is NOT my boss... he works for me. And for EVERYONE of us. We're paying his salary not the other way around. Now he's there to keep "game play" from being disrupted. But what happens to the game play when you bully the CR5's to the point that they don't want to chance exerciseing the powers that they've EARNED? Remember, we earned the ability to make Globals. Earned it by leading, by making the game fun and interesting. It's our game, we're the community. Now TJ may have goaded him a bit but I imagine TJ was pretty pissed about what had already happened to his friends. You don't back off when someone wrongs your friends, so kudos to him for that, I think he could have done it smarter but I suspect the end result would have been the same.


Ah, but is DanB the boss of the PS Community?

Or is this more of a "Those goddamn cops. never around when you need them. Don't they have a better thing to do than give me a speeding ticket? How about stopping some murders?"

So DanB is more of a community cop protecting the nonCR5 masses from global spammage. Meanwhile the CR5's are the punk kids who hate the man for coming down on them just cuz they were thrashing the stair rails with their skateboards at the local mall...

JP

Guru
04-04-2005, 10:07 PM
I would like everyone to stop posting, please. I'm trying to enjoy my internet and this text is seriously hindering my fun. Thanks. I'd like to not have to report anyone for spamming my screen with text.

Reija
04-05-2005, 12:20 AM
http://imagestash.com/uploads/32507.jpg

mental888
04-05-2005, 01:32 AM
Oh noes!! da wookiee!!

Wolvpak99
04-05-2005, 01:37 AM
I dont agree with what Dan did but its over nutin is gonna happen.

ive seen about 50 threads now about this on multpe forums and it is getting old...just move on and play...im sure Sony will eventually relieze that Dan's a prick and get rid of him.

martyr
04-05-2005, 02:07 AM
I dont agree with what Dan did but its over nutin is gonna happen.

ive seen about 50 threads now about this on multpe forums and it is getting old...just move on and play...im sure Sony will eventually relieze that Dan's a prick and get rid of him.

that's what i've been doing for a pretty long time now.

i have a lot invested in this community and in this game.

for the first time, dan's actions offended me personally, as well as affecting the way i feel about and play this game. i would be shirking my responsibility and ignoring my vast investments if i turned a blind eye to these events. as a neutral observer, so to speak, my own testimony has a particular value to the process of analysis in that i'm not acting in self-defense or expressing agression, just contributing my observations and suggestions.

now having discussed the events at length with samhayne, i'm comfortable continuing to play the game, but it's dismaying to see such a stupid argument between sony and some individuals generating so much drama within our community; that's why i'm still discussing it here.

Stan-The-Man
04-05-2005, 09:16 AM
http://imagestash.com/uploads/32507.jpg

Hahah, that pics on another thread at my other board, and I still can't get enough of it. :mrgreen:

Anyway, yeah, this topic is pointless now. The bans sucked and DanB is an asshole copper. Not much more to say, really. :P

m0o
04-06-2005, 08:22 PM
Guru is a sticklicker...go rub Franko's balls ! (what a chump)

Man that was a long but most enjoyable read.
My name was posted many times and im not even in game anymore but seems nothing has changed.

Spartikus an instagator ? or is he DanB's alt . Mabe he sets people up for the Ban Bat.

I truly belive that due to the Vanu dominating emerald (since i came to VS after completion of TR+NC CR5) was targeted by some inside help.

Fact...Emerald CR5's are on the chopping block

Is it me or is it just the VS that are getting Baned without warnings? Silenced, suspended. What ever happened to freedom of speech.

this game has gone down the shitter due to internal affairs, not the crazy fun people who play it. As i recall (forget who said it) someone warned they were going to dismantle the VS superior command infastructure.

PS = no longer fun
Guild Wars = Ton of Fun !

look me up as "wrath of m0o"
Ill be making a guild of players that were banned from PS : )

Guru
04-06-2005, 09:11 PM
M0o, a worthwhile contributer, as usual.

I've completely forgotten why I put you on ignore.

RagOnAStick
04-06-2005, 09:14 PM
M0o, a worthwhile contributer, as usual.
For once you said something worthwhile.

m0o I might just pick it up and give it a whirl with you after I hit a backpack on my NC.

VentoX
04-06-2005, 11:13 PM
M0o, a worthwhile contributer, as usual.
For once you said something worthwhile.

m0o I might just pick it up and give it a whirl with you after I hit a backpack on my NC.

backpack nc my ass, ill make sure you dont get nc backpack. Don't start spamming our command chat with your shit like you do on vs. Just stay VS and go away, you are one of the reason's i left. :evil:

m0o
04-06-2005, 11:56 PM
I believe DanB has been tranfered to Star Wars

LMAO Great now he can go pick on someone his own age !

martyr
04-07-2005, 12:08 AM
I believe DanB has been tranfered to Star Wars

i think we share CSRs with EQ and SWG, actually; all one big grumpy team.

GuardianofDoom-K
04-07-2005, 12:19 AM
I believe DanB has been tranfered to Star Wars

LMAO Great now he can go pick on someone his own age !

IMO, SWG is dying... in its current state the CU doesnt look promising...

Reija
04-07-2005, 01:24 AM
I believe DanB has been tranfered to Star Wars

LMAO Great now he can go pick on someone his own age !

IMO, SWG is dying... in its current state the CU doesnt look promising...

I recently quit playing because of that and because all that work getting to master smuggler burned me out.

RagOnAStick
04-07-2005, 01:46 PM
M0o, a worthwhile contributer, as usual.
For once you said something worthwhile.

m0o I might just pick it up and give it a whirl with you after I hit a backpack on my NC.

backpack nc my ass, ill make sure you dont get nc backpack. Don't start spamming our command chat with your shit like you do on vs. Just stay VS and go away, you are one of the reason's i left. :evil:

<3

ERADICATION
04-07-2005, 06:24 PM
Just for the record, I am not the original source of that log file as I was not online at the time. I copied the chat log from tomwoolley2's post in the following thread on page 3:

http://psforums.station.sony.com/ps/board/message?board.id=psemerald&message.id=220936&page=3

FYI.... TomWooley = Eradication = failure :lol:

:cry:

Bamelin
04-09-2005, 01:21 PM
Personally I'm happy to see DanB doing his job as there is no question those globals constituted spam. DanB and I always got along ...

I actually appealed myself yesterday regarding use of global to make sure I wasn't doing anything wrong. While I of course have never felt I'm in the wrong stating a different target I wanted to get his take on it and also defend myself against those that had appealed me with no justification.

Basically he said that there is no SOE rule that says CR5's have to vote or agree on global targets. He made a point of saying I've done nothing wrong. He also suggested ignoring all the arguments on /c (good advice).

So keep on appealing me NubS! One day maybe you'll learn that appeals only work when the person in question has actually done something wrong!

Bamelin

Stan-The-Man
04-09-2005, 02:18 PM
The point is, a few assholes just couldn't handle it being April Fools Day. Boo on them.

DanB says to ignore /c does he? Well that applies to /global too. But instead of ignoring the crap, they appeal. Just like assholes.

And that's uncalled for. Although he may have had to do something, I don't think it's always good to ban first and ask questions later. :roll:

BTW, why appeal yourself, I'm sure you could have got a few others to do it for you. :mrgreen:

And, finally, who cares about us appealing you? That's not relevant here. I think you're just trying to start something with that comment.

elana
04-09-2005, 02:29 PM
Personally I'm happy to see DanB doing his job as there is no question those globals constituted spam. DanB and I always got along ...


There's something about taking one to know one to be said here but can't quite figure out how to phrase it.


I actually appealed myself yesterday regarding use of global to make sure I wasn't doing anything wrong. While I of course have never felt I'm in the wrong stating a different target I wanted to get his take on it and also defend myself against those that had appealed me with no justification.

Basically he said that there is no SOE rule that says CR5's have to vote or agree on global targets. He made a point of saying I've done nothing wrong. He also suggested ignoring all the arguments on /c (good advice).


I'm glad you're following the letter of the law while you disrupt the community and make a general jackass out of yourself.


So keep on appealing me NubS! One day maybe you'll learn that appeals only work when the person in question has actually done something wrong!


Indeed. As we learned from this most recent situation. In the end we've received apologies from Sony, so we were in the right as well.

I'm glad that you get such a thrill out of irritating the community. I'm just wondering though. When you played long ago you were a dick. Then you played over christmas and were pretty decent, and now you're a dick again. Do you feel that you can't be a dick when it's on somebody else's dime? If so I think we can take up a collection to pay for your account if it means getting you to STFU.

Bamelin
04-09-2005, 02:32 PM
BTW, why appeal yourself, I'm sure you could have got a few others to do it for you.

No doubt.


And, finally, who cares about us appealing you?

I was unsure of SOE's policy regarding appeals and therefore had a very good reason to care ... while I didn't feel I'd done any wrong I wasn't sure if bannings were conducted based on the actual rules SOE's laid out ... or if they were based on the number of appeals that come in.

Thankfully for me bannings ARE based on SOE's rules ... rule's which I have not broken.

Bamelin

Bamelin
04-09-2005, 02:42 PM
The reason I quit at Christmas was my computer needed to be upgraded and just couldn't handle Planetside anymore. We didn't get into any arguments because half the time I was stuck in lag hell ... it's hard to pick out targets and lead continental battles when your FPS is 3.4 with a packet loss of 5.8

I was around for about a week over Christmas then gave up when it became apparent my computer just wasn't going to cut it anymore.

Now that I've upgraded it has freed me up to concentrate on providing our troops with the fun fights they crave. I suppose that this difference in gameplay mentality has alot to do with how some of you percieve me.

I don't believe in CR5 votes as they do not take into account the wishes of those who are not CR5. There was a pop lock's worth of troops on Cyssor that decided that was THEIR primary and to hell with the "CR5 approved primary"

Global the target you want, whoever wants to come to your target will. If your target is a wise and just choice I'm sure you'll get all the support you need ... unless there is a fun fight going on somewhere else. Take into account that many people don't care about strategic objectives if they are already having a good time where they are. Many troops also prefer to finish a continent they have started, making globals to recall somewhere else that much more annoying.

Things would have gone alot smoother last night if instead of trying to pull troops off Cyssor we simply said /comall great fight on Searhus AND Cyssor go to whichever battle you feel like. I include myself in that statement too.

Both continents were basically locked all night providing a great fight no matter where one went.

I call for an end of calling primaries. Simply state what target you want over global without this primary BS. Otherwise I'll have to start calling some "primaries" of my own which I think are more representative of where people really want to be.

Bamelin

elana
04-09-2005, 03:35 PM
I call for an end of calling primaries. Simply state what target you want over global without this primary BS. Otherwise I'll have to start calling some "primaries" of my own which I think are more representative of where people really want to be.


All in favor of no longer calling primaries say I!

*chrip* *chirp* *chirp*

StarRaven118
04-09-2005, 03:42 PM
pathetic

ThaneGriffen
04-09-2005, 05:12 PM
We're at the point where too many CR5s exist for everyone to call thier own primary. A collective mind is more powerful than a single one. Sure you have some valid points Bamelin, but your overall strategy will cause us to get sanc-locked more frequently, and have us lose in general on a global scale.

My policy is, as long as we got amerish and esamir secured, I don't care wtf happens.

When you start to fuck with that, then we're gonna have a problem.

Laylos
04-09-2005, 05:20 PM
To really Amplify the problem with the current cr5 system (the amount of cr5s, the globaling system, the lack of cr5 commands and options), I would recommend everyone globaling their own primary targets and everyone conting infomation as much as you can. Stay within the guildlines so no banning would be possible. Then they will have to do something about the current system because the disruption of play would be far too great... :twisted:

Could you just imagine the chaos...:twisted:

ThaneGriffen
04-09-2005, 05:22 PM
To really Amplify the problem with the current cr5 system (the amount of cr5s, the globaling system, the lack of cr5 commands and options), I would recommend everyone globaling their own primary targets and everyone conting infomation as much as you can. Stay within the guildlines so no banning would be possible. Then they will have to do something about the current system because the disruption of play would be far too great...:twisted:

Good Idea Laylos, something really does need to be done.

Laylos
04-09-2005, 05:42 PM
Then after the system has changed, have everyone write a message to the players on the public boards telling them what was going on and why. This way they too can understand that everything that was going on with the cr5s was for the greater good.

Stan-The-Man
04-09-2005, 06:44 PM
Bam, first off, I was getting at the point that your own problems/rule-breaking/whatever weren't relevant to this topic. Just like all that other crap you posted. Since that point is moot now, let me say this, for the record.

I call for an end of calling primaries.. Otherwise I'll have to start calling some "primaries" of my own which I think are more representative of where people really want to be.

Soo.....

'I call for an end to something everyone of the same rank has earned the right to do, otherwise I'll be an un-cooperative prick that'll make their lives hell'

Who the hell do you think you are? A Senator? A resistance Leader? Cut the bullshit. Your tones in such posts reek of complete arrogance and sumgness. Like you're trying to threaten or intimidate us. And that's just irritating.

Seriously, screw that. We don't have to do a goddamn thing you say, just like how your 'fun-fight' zerg laddies don't have to do anything the CR5s say.

Honestly, speak like you're a gamer, and not some stick-up-his-ass know-it-all police officer or lawyer with nothing better to do. You might actually get some respect.

As for your *CR5s shouldn't call targets cause it won't reflect on what those outside of CR5 wan't*, what the hell? Who cares about some damn rank? We're all gamers, which means we want a nice fight, where we can have fun, AND kick some ass, AND win. The good CR5s know this. They've all been at the bottom too, they should have some idea about what some other players want, as they were (And still are) players themselves.

Honestly, you think they don't wan't a 'fun-fight', either? Damn.

ThaneGriffen put it best, you have some valid points, but generally, your way just is not the best way ALL the time.

Usually I'm not this blunt and uncivil sounding, but seriously man, I couldn't have said that as clear without bullshitting myself.

johnypilgrim
04-09-2005, 07:35 PM
To be quite honest, the Vanu leadership has been pretty tight since January. 99% becuase people unilaterally decided to stop being pricks and start cooperating, to talk out issue before globalling, and generally remember that our bickering ends up losing all fronts.

As such, there have been great battles, solid primary and secondaries and low signal to noise ratio.

It'll be interested to watch the trend of things over the next month or so.

Anyone care to record it?

JP

Bamelin
04-09-2005, 10:27 PM
Soo.....

'I call for an end to something everyone of the same rank has earned the right to do, otherwise I'll be an un-cooperative prick that'll make their lives hell'

You misunderstand Stan. I'm not saying to stop using global to designate targets. All I'm saying is to drop the "primary" BS. Not every CR5 agrees with those so-called primaries. Global your target and leave it at that. But don't presume to speak for the rest of us by designating the target a primary. Just because you "voted" on it doesn't mean shit since those votes do not take into account where everyone else (CR1-4) wants to be. The CR5's are not the majority of the empire, the troops are.

In closing, you are absolutely correct in that everyone of the same rank has the "right" to use global (myself included) although I prefer to think of it as an ability rather than a right. Just because you don't "like" the way I choose to excersise that ability doesn't make me wrong in how I do so any more than it makes you folks wrong in how you do so.

I'm asking that you stop calling the targets you pick the "primaries" but if you don't want to do do that's fine. Just be prepared for some "primaries" of my own.

Seriously, screw that. We don't have to do a goddamn thing you say, just like how your 'fun-fight' zerg laddies don't have to do anything the CR5s say.

Good I'm finally getting through to you. =)

We're all gamers, which means we want a nice fight, where we can have fun, AND kick some ass, AND win.

This is where we differ ... Myself and others don't need to WIN to have fun. Sure if we DO happen to win that's a nice bonus but it's not what we need to have a good time. We place fun above winning whereas I think some CR5's place the value of winning above having fun. Or even worse yet think winning and fun mean the same thing.

I'd rather "lose" than go ghost hack our home continents for example. Why? Because ghost hacks are boring. Nessecary for victory? Absolutely. But I don't pay to be bored and neither do the guys that only have an hour each day to log on. I'd rather be in an alamo on the last continent at the last base we own in a huge ass last stand, rather than enduring a two hour ghost hack to reclaim our home conts. But that's just me.

Bamelin

Ender31
04-09-2005, 11:18 PM
Bam, I've talked to you personally before and your a decent guy like that, but I think you're a bit off with your idea about primaries. I'd rather "lose" than go ghost hack our home continents for example. Why? Because ghost hacks are boring. Nessecary for victory? Absolutely. But I don't pay to be bored and neither do the guys that only have an hour each day to log on.

Now if I understand this right you agree that they're necessary. Why? Because without our home continents We can't fight anywhere eventually. If everyone took your idea instead of you just being the rogue of the pack we would ALWAYS be fighting on Amerish and Esamir. And that is BORING to people who paid to fight on all the continents and in the caves. I agree that if we own those and they're safe then by all means global whatever because its not going to do any good unless its a new offensive because the zerg goes where it wants. We merely try to persuade it to move to the most logical target that will give us a good fight when the TR/NC start showing up.

How do you think your last stands get started. It has to start with no enemy there at first. The Idea of calling a primary is starting a fight *usually* so no one is going to be there at first. I don't believe I have ever seen you call a primary that hasn't been started yet. So if it were up to you we'd just call primaries where the fight is already at.... that wouldn't be the case if we did that all the time because we'd eventually have to hack back our home continents once we lost them because there was no fight there. Home continents are essential and are ALWAYS the primary. You can't get away from that because fighting on Amerish and Esamir everyday would get pretty damn boring and you can't deny that.

Bamelin
04-10-2005, 01:59 AM
I don't believe I have ever seen you call a primary that hasn't been started yet.

I wondered when somebody would notice that.

When we finish a continent I simply look for another continent that already has some action on it. Nine times out of ten there will be a smallish group of Vanu that have ignored where everyone else is and opened the door on a new continent. Usually they are in desperate need of reinforcements as a NC or TR zerg is about to crush them. A few nights ago that was *exactly* what was going on on Cyssor which was why I globalled it as a target.

No boring "down time" waiting for the enemy to respond, and certainly no chance of it becoming a ghost hack continent.

There was already action there. Not a "maybe they'll come" scenerio, not a "if we hack here and here I'm sure they'll respond" scenerio. It's true sometimes they do respond. But then there's those other times when they either don't respond at all or they send in a half assed effort that is more of a joke than serious opposition. Sure we win the continent ... but what fun is an hour wasted ghost hacking a bunch of half empty or totaly empty enemy bases?

I global for the "looking for action this instant" troops. Unfortunately for the strategic crowd the continent with the most action on it is not always the best strategic choice.

The point still stands though that people will fight where they want to fight. You global your strategic target, you can even say which CR5's agree on this target if you think it will help your cause.

I in turn will continue to global the target that is going to provide troops with the most action possible at the moment and specify that this is "Bamelin's Target".

But please no "this is the primary target" or "all the CR5's agree on this target".

A. I'm a CR5 and I don't agree
B. I will call my target as primary in retaliation
C. In the case of Cyssor there were plenty of other CR5's that didn't agree with Searhus being called "primary"

Call your targets, get other CR5's to agree over global if you feel you need support for your choice. But don't presume to speak for the rest of us CR1-5 just because 5 of you voted on it.

Bamelin

Bamelin
04-10-2005, 02:14 AM
Oh and one last thing.

Rahl was going to ban me from these boards anyways whether or not I made those threads public.

He had given me "one week" to "agree to be cooperative" as he put it. Another way of saying "agree with me and how I think you should play the game or I'll boot you, you have 7 days to decide".

This ultimatum from Rahl came after a mammoth 8 page thread of arguing over gameplay philosophy. Rahl's always been a dick when it comes to anyone that disagree's with his point of view.

Perhaps I should not have made those threads public, however he was going to boot me anyways so I figured "ah what the hell" Might as well go out with a bang.

Bamelin
04-10-2005, 02:43 AM
http://psforums.station.sony.com/ps/board/message?board.id=psemerald&message.id=57027

This was the thread btw that Rahl is referring to regarding the banning ... however he forgot to mention he was going to ban me anyways.


This thread might give some players that weren't around back then a better perspective over what our gameplay philosophies are all about.

Bamelin

Ender31
04-10-2005, 03:23 AM
Granted the fight thats already going on is more fun, but you ignored the statement I made about the Home continents, will you please promise us even though you may not agree you'll agree to defending the home continents. I dont want to be stuck on Amerish and Esamir all the time... After that the fight is up to the zerg anyways despite cr5 globals to wherever...... Home continents have to be defended, we don't want to see Red or Blue magriders:P.


I'm trying to sound rational.... i'm a bit drunk though.. sorry :D

elana
04-10-2005, 03:42 AM
Rahl's always been a dick when it comes to anyone that disagree's with his point of view.

s/Rahl/Bamelin/g

Rahl
04-10-2005, 03:51 AM
Oh and one last thing.

Rahl was going to ban me from these boards anyways whether or not I made those threads public.

He had given me "one week" to "agree to be cooperative" as he put it. Another way of saying "agree with me and how I think you should play the game or I'll boot you, you have 7 days to decide".

This ultimatum from Rahl came after a mammoth 8 page thread of arguing over gameplay philosophy. Rahl's always been a dick when it comes to anyone that disagree's with his point of view.

Perhaps I should not have made those threads public, however he was going to boot me anyways so I figured "ah what the hell" Might as well go out with a bang.


Bamelin, you don't read well. There havve been dozens of posts begging for greater cooperation, less strife, fewer globals, greater fous on achievable goals and more unity. You often post in those threads with off-topic or absurd crap. We have attemted to reason with you, we have isolated you, we have then made peace which you broke, we have offered you many solutions to the Offense (learn to spel) versus Defense issue. You don't listen, you don't follow your own advice or ours, you don't share, you don't contribute, you don't cooperate, you don't even seem to believe that the people you play with are human. We aren't bots asshole! You suck at the game. Your leadership is nothing more than a play-by-play map reading that has been outdone by a 13 year old (we had a 13 year old cr5 long before Bamelin who was much more intelligent).

I am sick to death of the trouble you cause. You come into situations that are already difficult for the Vanu and you make it worse. I really believe you play for the NC.

You have one week to show me that your access to this site is of ANY benefit to the CR5 community before I revoke it. Your senseless posts generate nothing but conflict and division. Without you here I believe our discussions would be more pleasant and focused. Explain to me why I'm wrong. Even better, find someone to argue for you. I doubt many...if any...will stand up for you.

This was my actual post. A day or two after that post you began your content theft. Then, when caught and adminished for your theft, you claimed to have the conent of all my forums in Word documents and that you were going to go start a forum yourself with that content. Thank you for the laugh.

Bamelin, you're a selfish and foolish person. I pity you. I hope you one day can learn to be someone who makes other people's days brighter with your presence. It will be a long journey for you, but it will be worth it. Imagine what it would be like to enter a social situation, even one as trivial as a game, and have the people there be glad you showed up.

Rahl
04-10-2005, 03:53 AM
Rahl's always been a dick when it comes to anyone that disagree's with his point of view.

s/Rahl/Bamelin/g

A regex joke....I love it. Shit, thats the funniest thing I've read all day.

elana
04-10-2005, 05:58 AM
s/Rahl/Bamelin/g

A regex joke....I love it. Shit, thats the funniest thing I've read all day.

Bad day? :)

johnypilgrim
04-10-2005, 11:48 AM
First: Hey everybody - look it's a pretty good discusion going. THANK YOU.

Second: At the moment, we appear to be debating primaries, secondaries and general battle plans during regular gaming. You know what? A little back and forth doesn't kill us in daily gaming.

What really worries me (and yea its an actual worry becuase it'll definitely affect my fun) is how we will all react during special events. Special Events do call for absolute unity among the CR5's. There is no wiggle room for *other fun battles* as there are very specific and time constrainted goals to be met.

comments?

JP

Ender31
04-10-2005, 03:01 PM
Johnny have you not been reading the thread? Bam doesn't want Primaries/Secondaries, he just wants to call the fight thats already going on. Which means we lose Amerish/Esamir on a daily basis and are stuck fighting there for quite a long time. Debating is good but I think we need to get this topic wrapped up as soon as we can in a way that will benefit everyone. I say let Bamelin call his last stands even though the zerg is already there if, and only if, Amerish and Esamir are safe. If those aren't safe Bamelin you have to sacrafice your fun just for a bit so we can resecure those continents, and who knows maybe you'll get a good fight out of it too. As long as you don't counter-global us when those two continents are in trouble. I think thats reasonable for everyone?

Stan-The-Man
04-10-2005, 03:55 PM
I'm not saying to stop using global to designate targets. All I'm saying is to drop the "primary" BS. Not every CR5 agrees with those so-called primaries. Global your target and leave it at that. But don't presume to speak for the rest of us by designating the target a primary. Just because you "voted" on it doesn't mean shit since those votes do not take into account where everyone else (CR1-4) wants to be. The CR5's are not the majority of the empire, the troops are.

In closing, you are absolutely correct in that everyone of the same rank has the "right" to use global (myself included) although I prefer to think of it as an ability rather than a right. Just because you don't "like" the way I choose to excersise that ability doesn't make me wrong in how I do so any more than it makes you folks wrong in how you do so.

I'm asking that you stop calling the targets you pick the "primaries" but if you don't want to do do that's fine. Just be prepared for some "primaries" of my own.

Well when you contradict other CR5 opinions, the general Vanu get confused and don't know what the hell to do, cause, the way you put it, players like me are all mindless heatbags that can't figure out a 'fun-fight' for ourselves, and need some self-appointed spokesperson to decide all that for us.

BTW, who appointed you to be Emerald Vanu's spokesperson?

Seriously, screw that. We don't have to do a goddamn thing you say, just like how your 'fun-fight' zerg laddies don't have to do anything the CR5s say.

Good I'm finally getting through to you. =)

Yeah, your brainless zerg buddies won't listen to the 'CR5' opinion anyway, right? So that comment really doesn't matter to me then.

I was trying to make the point we don't have to listen to any of your demands, and that continuing to force them on us with hollow intimidation and a 'my shit don't stink' tone in your posts doesn't help you.

I'd rather be in an alamo on the last continent at the last base we own in a huge ass last stand, rather than enduring a two hour ghost hack to reclaim our home conts. But that's just me.

Well, what happens when that base you decided to 'alamo' was the last base on the last continent we had?

You HAVE to actually win somewhere. People want to win sooner or later.

I'm not saying going in an 'alamo' fight is a bad thing. Fuck, I might do it myself a time or two, but I don't enjoy it or find it 'fun' all the time. Nor does anyone else, or so I thought, anyway.

But, as Ender as put it, the Home Conts should be kept all the times. They're important. They're called 'Home Continents' for a reason. It's a lot better in the long run, because it gives your zerg buddies more options to piss away in an alamo fight.

When we finish a continent I simply look for another continent that already has some action on it. Nine times out of ten there will be a smallish group of Vanu that have ignored where everyone else is and opened the door on a new continent. Usually they are in desperate need of reinforcements as a NC or TR zerg is about to crush them. A few nights ago that was *exactly* what was going on on Cyssor which was why I globalled it as a target.

Well, thats just tough shit for them. Just because they start shit by themselves doesn't mean they're going to win. Nor that they HAVE TO win.

If they wan't to be selfish assholes and refuse to help us, why should we help them? We can't we just fight our own fights as we wan't to? But wait, isn't that what one of your main points are? Damn.

Really, there should be plenty enough people that like zerging onto some random continent to help you out, and if not, well, your fault for attacking with a too small force/contigent on a target that is usually inane anyway.

I global for the "looking for action this instant" troops. Unfortunately for the strategic crowd the continent with the most action on it is not always the best strategic choice.

Well, theres a nice, handy-dandy feature PlanetSide has that can help those troops with that. It's called the 'Instant Action' button. Maybe someobody should post about it and let them know.

And, BTW, if it's true that 'the cont with the most action isn't always the best strategic choice', why are you so concerned with finding fun fights full of action, when it, as you put it, isnt always a sound choice? Damndest thing.

The point still stands though that people will fight where they want to fight. You global your strategic target, you can even say which CR5's agree on this target if you think it will help your cause.

I'm sure they will, regardless of what global you're going to spam to drown it out.

But please no "this is the primary target" or "all the CR5's agree on this target".

A. I'm a CR5 and I don't agree
B. I will call my target as primary in retaliation
C. In the case of Cyssor there were plenty of other CR5's that didn't agree with Searhus being called "primary"

Well, that's why there can also be a 'secondary'. It comes after a primary, and can be used as an alternative target. I've heard this term used quite a few times for CR5s who can't agree on one single target. Quite useful sometimes.

As for 'all CR5s agree on this target', well, yes, that could be false. They really should say 'all CR5s currently online and who haven't said anything in C Chat agree on this target'. You never know if us regular heatbag players in-game can clarify that for ourselves, after all.

don't presume to speak for the rest of us CR1-5 just because 5 of you voted on it.

But, aren't you doing the same thing, more-or-less? That is, presumably speaking for the rest of the Vanu troops and everybody else who isn't CR5?

As I said before, who exactly appointed you for that?

I know I didn't appoint you, and I know goddamn well you don't speak for me.

Seriously, I wan't names. I wan't a list.

Until then, only speak for yourself, and stop speaking for other people.

KelesK
04-10-2005, 11:42 PM
My turn!

You misunderstand Stan. I'm not saying to stop using global to designate targets. All I'm saying is to drop the "primary" BS. Not every CR5 agrees with those so-called primaries.That is where mutual respect comes into play Bamelin, you sound like you are mature enough to understand that.

In closing, you are absolutely correct in that everyone of the same rank has the "right" to use global (myself included) although I prefer to think of it as an ability rather than a right. Just because you don't "like" the way I choose to excersise that ability doesn't make me wrong in how I do so any more than it makes you folks wrong in how you do so.You only regard it as an ability because it backs your side of the argument and you know it.

I'm asking that you stop calling the targets you pick the "primaries" but if you don't want to do do that's fine. Just be prepared for some "primaries" of my own.Putting this clear for you Bam, that would be no different from any other time you are on.

This is where we differ ... Myself and others don't need to WIN to have fun. Sure if we DO happen to win that's a nice bonus but it's not what we need to have a good time. We place fun above winning whereas I think some CR5's place the value of winning above having fun. Or even worse yet think winning and fun mean the same thing. Sanc lock sounds fun too doesn't it Bam, while your off zerging you ass at one base on Cyssor for 6 hours, the rest of us are locked in the sanc because of you, perhaps we should be paying you to play the game?

When we finish a continent I simply look for another continent that already has some action on it. Nine times out of ten there will be a smallish group of Vanu that have ignored where everyone else is and opened the door on a new continent.And nine times out of ten it's Cyssor right Bam?

johnypilgrim
04-11-2005, 10:31 AM
What I wouldn't give for a good six hour battle on Amerish!

sigh.

JP

Volcanon
04-11-2005, 12:10 PM
Bamelin, you dont need to speak for everyone, they can speak for themselves. Every person in this game is free to do whatever they want - but the CR5's are here to lead. We would not be able to use global otherwise. Since there are many of us a vote needs to be done in order to maintain unity. No one has to listen to a global but command will continue to notify the empire of the supported continent and what command feels is a fun and tactically sound fight regardless of what you think, say, or do.

Stan-The-Man
04-11-2005, 12:38 PM
^ I like this guy. :)

BTW Bam, nice comment on that thread you linked.....

The sad thing is if you were to not check the dates you wouldn't even know this thread was from almost a year ago.

Especially considering you we're the one that brought that thread back up..... :mrgreen:

Imachick
04-11-2005, 04:17 PM
There is a lot of valid arguments here but the thread has veered off course. The whole reason for the hate is people got silenced for globaling. Most of the VS arent n00bs and we have a pretty good idea of who to listen to & who to ignore. I'm sure I'll get flamed for popping in .... b/c I'm a peon in the grand scheme...but most of the players are....like me. There has to be some form of "governing force" or the empires would be almost equally split on all of the continents at once...or maybe not to that extreme. but what I'm trying to say is if not for Primary & secondaries nothing would ever get done. Its your choice to follow them....most do, and we steamroll most of the time. I agree with the leadership most of the time.

my $.02

Imachick
04-11-2005, 04:32 PM
one other thing......

When Rahl threatened Bamelin....it wasnt b/c he disgreed with him ..
its called copyright. If your at a company & design a new invention or whatnot on their dime ...its theirs plane as day. This applies to almost all aspects of life. When you cut & paste content on this board & move to somewhere else without permission you have in all reality "stolen" it. I know it sound lame....but that life. He has every right to ban you imho. He could prosecute for plaguirism...though thats a long pointless battle...he could do it. Thats his right....its his site. If it was an e-mail conversation perhaps it would be different.

Bamelin
04-11-2005, 06:07 PM
And nine times out of ten it's Cyssor right Bam?

right =)

Sanc lock sounds fun too doesn't it Bam, while your off zerging you ass at one base on Cyssor for 6 hours, the rest of us are locked in the sanc because of you, perhaps we should be paying you to play the game?

I don't buy the whole "we'll get sanc locked!" argument although I'm sure I'll be used as a convienient scapegoat when and if that does ever happen when I'm online. Really the only time we do get sanc locked is generally at 3 in the morning when pop is down.

That said, even if we DO get sanc locked one always has the option of logging into their TR or NC avatar. Although I daresay breaking back into the "home conts" would probaly offer a fun battle as well.

Putting this clear for you Bam, that would be no different from any other time you are on.

Correct.

You only regard it as an ability because it backs your side of the argument and you know it.

Also correct. Although one could always flip the argument around and say you regard it as a right because it supports your side of the argument. There really is no right or wrong way to look at it, just as there is no right or wrong way of using it provided one sticks within the confines that SOE has set regarding it's use.

Bamelin, you dont need to speak for everyone, they can speak for themselves.

This is the reason nine times out of ten I make sure to specify the target is "Bamelin's target". Unless of course globals/designates a primary that I feel is not an accurate reflection of where the troops want to be. At that point I designate a primary which I believe is more in line with where the troops are having the most fun at the moment.

BTW Bam, nice comment on that thread you linked.....

Quote:
The sad thing is if you were to not check the dates you wouldn't even know this thread was from almost a year ago.


Especially considering you we're the one that brought that thread back up.....

Just wanted to point out that in a year and a half this argument still hasn't been resolved.

Bamelin, you dont need to speak for everyone, they can speak for themselves. Every person in this game is free to do whatever they want - but the CR5's are here to lead.

I prefer to think of the CR5 role as that of a coordinator. I agree with you though that each person is free to do whatever they want.

Well when you contradict other CR5 opinions, the general Vanu get confused and don't know what the hell to do, cause, the way you put it, players like me are all mindless heatbags that can't figure out a 'fun-fight' for ourselves, and need some self-appointed spokesperson to decide all that for us.

I disagree. As somebody else put it in that Emerald thread I ressurected, (one) of the reasons people recall when a global goes out is that they feel the CR5's don't "care" about their fight. Not to mention the snowball effect that occurs as more and more people leave. But when a CR5 globals or contalls that they are staying, many of the troops will stay too ... partly because somebody who can help coordinate the current battle has made it clear they are not going to abandon the troops.

BTW, who appointed you to be Emerald Vanu's spokesperson?

I never claimed to be the entire Vanu spokesperson, I prefer to think of myself as a vocal proponent of those that prefer to finish the battles they are currently in.

Yeah, your brainless zerg buddies won't listen to the 'CR5' opinion anyway, right?

Not when CR5's voice attitudes like that. The zerg is made up of individuals. And they generally DO have brains despite what you may believe. And many of those individuals, like me, don't care about the global situation. We prefer our continental fun. We really don't care what is going to happen 5 hours from now. This is a somewhat harsh truth for the strategic thinkers to deal with. Call us selfish, self centred, etc, it really has no effect on us. We pay to have fun now, not to be saddled with defensive "duties" we could care less about. Hell most of us could care less which empire we're fighting on provided there's lots of action. We don't see "empire responsibility" the way you do because we don't see a difference between playing our VS, TR or NC avatar aside from the weapons each side uses.

What really worries me (and yea its an actual worry becuase it'll definitely affect my fun) is how we will all react during special events. Special Events do call for absolute unity among the CR5's. There is no wiggle room for *other fun battles* as there are very specific and time constrainted goals to be met.

Special events are fun. I'll fully support those events no matter what's going on elsewhere ... mainly because I believe most Vanu will want to take part in those special events.

Finally regarding homeland defence ... if the zerg is there I'll be there too. If the zerg is somewhere else having fun, then that's where I'll be. I should point out as well that often the best way to get the NC or TR off one of the homeland continents is to hit one of THEIR homeland continents. Since they think the same way you guys do a massive attack on one of their "homelands" is bound to make the "OH NOES THE HOMELAND EVERYONE RECALL!!!" globals ring out as surely as they do when OUR homeland is under attack.

So instead of recalling to our homelands consider attacking one of THEIR homelands in force. I know this works. I used to do this to the NC all the time on Hossin (this is wayyyy back when the brodcast gates were not yet implemented) then laugh at them on the forums afterwards because they fell for it.

Bamelin

Laylos
04-11-2005, 07:51 PM
what does this have to do with CSRs?

Rahl
04-11-2005, 07:54 PM
Hey Bam, you didn't reply to my post.

Also, I didn't read your post...just skimmed a few bits. Looked boring.

Stan-The-Man
04-11-2005, 08:26 PM
Well, I was gonna make a reply, but then it kinda logged me out and didnt post it, and now I lost all that shit I was gonna post.

Goddamn it! :x

Pffff.....maybe I'll see if I repost most of what I was gonna say.....

even if we DO get sanc locked one always has the option of logging into their TR or NC avatar. Although I daresay breaking back into the "home conts" would probaly offer a fun battle as well.

Not all of us have an NC/TR avatar and not all of us care to make one. Not all of us can use it even if we have one. That comment is just a crummy excuse.

This is the reason nine times out of ten I make sure to specify the target is "Bamelin's target". Unless of course globals/designates a primary that I feel is not an accurate reflection of where the troops want to be. At that point I designate a primary which I believe is more in line with where the troops are having the most fun at the moment.

What you think or 'feel' and what others think 'or 'feel' just isn't the same damn thing. Unless you're a mind reader, that argument has no merit, and in that sense, your globals are no better than those made by the other CR5s.

Just wanted to point out that in a year and a half this argument still hasn't been resolved.

You trolled up a thread just for that? Bah. Whatever.

BTW, who appointed you to be Emerald Vanu's spokesperson?

I never claimed to be the entire Vanu spokesperson, I prefer to think of myself as a vocal proponent of those that prefer to finish the battles they are currently in.

That only alters my question. It doesn't answer it.

Did they appoint or ask you to speak for them?

Yeah, your brainless zerg buddies won't listen to the 'CR5' opinion anyway, right?

Not when CR5's voice attitudes like that. The zerg is made up of individuals. And they generally DO have brains despite what you may believe. And many of those individuals, like me, don't care about the global situation. We prefer our continental fun. We really don't care what is going to happen 5 hours from now. This is a somewhat harsh truth for the strategic thinkers to deal with. Call us selfish, self centred, etc, it really has no effect on us. We pay to have fun now, not to be saddled with defensive "duties" we could care less about. Hell most of us could care less which empire we're fighting on provided there's lots of action. We don't see "empire responsibility" the way you do because we don't see a difference between playing our VS, TR or NC avatar aside from the weapons each side uses.

The brainless comment was uncalled for. I apologize.

Well, the thing is, the Global Strategy tries to get fun for everyone, unlike your continental battle that only gets fun and action for just whoevers on said cont. I believe I've said some more of this same stuff at VSCommand in the thread you made.

As for you not caring about what happens hours from now, well, what about those same people who get on then? They'll most likely get shafted on getting any good 'fun' fight. And that just isn't fair. They also pay to have the same fun too, you know.

I've no problem with you guys having a fun fight by yourselves. I just don't see how your fight warrants other paying players getting it right up the ass after you're done.

You and your continental buddies may not care about them. But the Global guys do.

Regardless of what you think, the Global game tries to defend what we got so that we'll have links to other conts for more people, even ones like you, to have fights on later. That, and you've got something to defend, should it get hit later.

Actions in PS are supposed to be long-term like that, and the Global game sticks to that truest, IMO.

One of the points of the game is aquiring land/territory from the enemy and HOLDING it. After all, don't you want to keep what you fought for? Besides, if we didn't hold something, we would be stuck in Sanctuary. Someone has to play the Global game for you to have your Continental game.

Many of us realise this, and thats why we play the Global game, and plat defense, regardless of what you want us to do or what you 'feel is best for us'.

If all you wan't is action and fun-fights, why bother shelling cash to play this game, when I'm certain there are many other games that also offer lots of action and fun? What makes this game so special?

homeland defence ... if the zerg is there I'll be there too. If the zerg is somewhere else having fun, then that's where I'll be. I should point out as well that often the best way to get the NC or TR off one of the homeland continents is to hit one of THEIR homeland continents. Since they think the same way you guys do a massive attack on one of their "homelands" is bound to make the "OH NOES THE HOMELAND EVERYONE RECALL!!!" globals ring out as surely as they do when OUR homeland is under attack.

So instead of recalling to our homelands consider attacking one of THEIR homelands in force. I know this works. I used to do this to the NC all the time on Hossin (this is wayyyy back when the brodcast gates were not yet implemented) then laugh at them on the forums afterwards because they fell for it.

Bamelin

Well, things just arent the same as they used to be. Doing that isn't always possible, and even when it is, it doesn't eliminate the need for actual/regular defense. If they're like us, there will be stubborn continental guys who'll stay on our home conts anyway. And that means there needs to be a defense of some sort.

We can't just go and attack the NCs home cont when ours gets attacked, that's not always possible. And it's never simple to do so, even when it is possible. Usually, its easier to just recall to place we've already got and are trying to hold than to go through the hassle of traveling to another enemy-held cont to start another assualt.

Anyway, thats that for now, I may reply to a couple other points, but that will be later, that is, if I bother to reply to them at all. Bah.

As for you 'Imachick' go ahead and post your opinions here. That's what this one forum in this Board is for, general discussion by anyone in PlanetSide (Or so I assume), besides, it's good to know what peons like you (and me for that matter) think. ;)

Laylos
04-12-2005, 09:00 AM
Hey Bam, you didn't reply to my post.

Also, I didn't read your post...just skimmed a few bits. Looked boring.

Really you don't have to read his posts anymore, its the samething he has been posting since the merger. I don't read them and I probably can summarize what the whole thing says. Like an old beat up broken record, just all BS with no hard valid points.

RagOnAStick
04-12-2005, 09:10 AM
Hey Bam, you didn't reply to my post.

Also, I didn't read your post...just skimmed a few bits. Looked boring.

Really you don't have to read his posts anymore, its the samething he has been posting since the merger. I don't read them and I probably can summarize what the whole thing says. Like an old beat up broken record, just all BS with no hard valid points.

Bamelin..I guess you enjoy throwing up a shitstorm..

You can't call your 'own primaries'. I don't think you understand what a primary is, nor do you understand what a CR5 has to do.

The easiest way to deal with him is to appeal him in game, IP ban him from the site, and for each global he whips out, break out another 20. The mindless zerg will listen to quantity.

Unless the rest of you enjoy fighting with him, then carry on as you have been for the past 2 years.